Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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by Montrealcorp k

thats is a freakn disgusting point for justifying to kill innocent people....
you think only israel have massive striking power ?
many countries have 100X the striking power of israel, do you see them eradicating people like they do ?

stop it...

anyway the point still stand, i do not know how those that say what israel still doing today is ok but one thing is for sure, i dont know what the number is for them but one jew isnt worth unlimited human life...thats for sure.

drink your cup of blood while

In case you have a genuine interest in being informed.

Below I’ve linked a NATO report on Hamas’ use of human shields in Gaza. The report predates the current conflict but Hamas’ tactics haven’t changed.

https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/...


by Trolly McTrollson k

Hamas fully complied with the terms of the ceasefire that both parties agreed to, Israel did not. You can spin this any way that makes you feel okay with yourself, but Bibi is the one who broke his word and derailed the best chance of seeing the hostages returned. Obv the hostages are of no use to Netanyahu when they've been returned and he can't use them as a pretext to continue the bloodbath.

Phase 1 was completed, and ended. And it had plenty of Hamas violations, thank you very much.

Phase 2 never got off the ground. EXACTLY as everyone I know predicted. And here we are. War again.

You cannot have a cease fire if you do not have bodies coming back man. A month is a month, full stop. Israel wasn't going to let Hamas rearm for however longer they wanted to keep stalling sending back real people. And honestly the amount of times Hamas has violated a cease fire, nobody gives af. Stall for time, you're going to piss Bibi off.


by Trolly McTrollson k

Hamas fully complied with the terms of the ceasefire that both parties agreed to, Israel did not. You can spin this any way that makes you feel okay with yourself, but Bibi is the one who broke his word and derailed the best chance of seeing the hostages returned. Obv the hostages are of no use to Netanyahu when they've been returned and he can't use them as a pretext to continue the bloodbath.

What were you expecting? Trump got elected. The gloves are completely off for Israel and I don’t think they intend to let Hamas plan out another Oct 7th.

The time for your outrage was when all of your compatriots were being tricked into voting Trump. Imagine Muslims for Trump… Jesus Christ lol.



by DoyleBrunsonFan k

What were you expecting? Trump got elected. The gloves are completely off for Israel and I don’t think they intend to let Hamas plan out another Oct 7th.

That's it. The American chickens voted for KFC. The planet is seeing the results. And they aren't great results for Gaza I fear. You'll note I wanted Kamala.


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

The time for your outrage was when all of your compatriots were being tricked into voting Trump. Imagine Muslims for Trump… Jesus Christ lol.

I've never supported Trump, do you perhaps have me confused with someone else?

by rafiki k

That's it. The American chickens voted for KFC.

200 dead children and you still think this **** is the height of comedy.


by Trolly McTrollson k

I've never supported Trump, do you perhaps have me confused with someone else?

200 dead children and you still think this **** is the height of comedy.

I don't think any of it is funny. But the Muslim community voting for Trump is something they'll talk about for ages (and so will we). And smart people told them from the rooftops not to do it. You needed the most very basic understanding of the world to not walk into that mess. But "genocide Joe" is about all that was needed, and people in this thread were part of the wave that pushed the chickens to vote that way. You repeat something enough times and it becomes true. Now we know that the democrats were the last thing holding Bibi back.

Fwiw, Israel has never once been allowed a total victory. You can't name one. If they get it here, it'll be their first.


by rafiki k

I don't think any of it is funny.

lol, of course you do. You're *proud* of that little joke of yours about Muslims getting butchered on an industrial scale. Don't worry, there are plenty more corpses on the way, get your best snarky one-liners ready.


The UN and international community allowing illegal occupation after 1967 was a huge victory.


by Trolly McTrollson k

lol, of course you do. You're *proud* of that little joke of yours about Muslims getting butchered on an industrial scale. Don't worry, there are plenty more corpses on the way, get your best snarky one-liners ready.

Trolly I'm mildly amused that YOU'RE mad, but that's about it. Between the two of us, only one of us has a family (and a homeland) directly impacted here. And it ain't yours.


by jalfrezi k

The UN and international community allowing illegal occupation after 1967 was a huge victory.

My quote was more for "military victories"

But you'll note that despite it being well in Israel's rights to keep the land they took in war (which is what Putin is pushing for now), they largely never did. And it's possible in hindsight that that was a mistake in at least a few locations.


by Trolly McTrollson k

I've never supported Trump, do you perhaps have me confused with someone else?

200 dead children and you still think this **** is the height of comedy.

The rhetoric you use and arguments you make in this thread all lent support to Trump over Biden/Harris so maybe you’re the one who got confused when you voted? Idk what to tell you man. If I have you confused for someone else then I’m sorry.


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

The rhetoric you use and arguments you make in this thread all lent support to Trump over Biden/Harris so maybe you’re the one who got confused when you voted? Idk what to tell you man.

THANK YOU.

You say Genocide Joe a million times, eventually you must accept the logical outcomes.


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

The rhetoric you use and arguments you make in this thread all lent support to Trump over Biden/Harris

What? Where did I ever say that Trump would be better than Biden? Do you smell toast right now?


by rafiki k

Trolly I'm mildly amused that YOU'RE mad, but that's about it. Between the two of us, only one of us has a family (and a homeland) directly impacted here. And it ain't yours.

You're a Canadian, bub. My tax dollars go toward prosecuting this genocide, I have more skin in the game than you do. You also don't know the first thing about my family or my friends, so maybe think about that before you run your mouth.

Mind you, I certainly don't need direct family connections to a part of the world to be upset about a mass slaughter of people. That's kind of the point of the whole "First, they came for the socialists..." poem.


Trolly, when Victor and Jakfrezi were nonstop spamming propaganda aimed at discrediting Biden/Harris with the intent of skewing the election for Trump, I don’t seem to remember you being one of us who was pushing back. Sorry if I’m mistaken.


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

Trolly, when Victor and Jakfrezi were nonstop spamming propaganda aimed at discrediting Biden/Harris with the intent of skewing the election for Trump, I don’t seem to remember you being one of us who was pushing back. Sorry if I’m mistaken.

Maybe take this up with Vic and Jalfreizi then? I'm a different poster, I'm not responsible for whatever nonsense they post. Frankly, I call Vic an imbecile all the time as it is.


only an imbecile would think that Trump is at all appreciably worse than Biden. Trolly, you arent gonna wipe that stink away. you voted for genocide.


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

Trolly, when Victor and Jakfrezi were nonstop spamming propaganda aimed at discrediting Biden/Harris with the intent of skewing the election for Trump, I don’t seem to remember you being one of us who was pushing back. Sorry if I’m mistaken.

How stupid must you be to believe that anyone wanting to skew an election would be using an irrelevant little internet forum to do it?

How stupid must you also be to confuse criticising Biden/Harris with supporting Trump?

Double stupidity points for DBF!


by Victor k

only an imbecile would think that Trump is at all appreciably worse than Biden. Trolly, you arent gonna wipe that stink away. you voted for genocide.

fr, how insulted are you that this guy can't tell us apart?


by jalfrezi k

How stupid must you be to believe that anyone wanting to skew an election would be using an irrelevant little internet forum to do it?

How stupid must you also be to confuse criticising Biden/Harris with supporting Trump?

Double stupidity points for DBF!

The propaganda was aimed at skewing the election. You are just parroting it in here without even realizing that you’re being manipulated. You’re totally right, you spamming in here 24/7 is irrelevant.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.


Biden was about a 97 on the genocide scale. Trump is 99. theres no real difference.


by Trolly McTrollson k

You're a Canadian, bub..

I expected this song and dance again.

The logic you seek to apply would mean that Marc Carney, the current Prime Minister of Canada, is perhaps not Canadian because he left for 10 years.

So what am I, Trolly?


How amusing that Jalfrezi thought I meant he was personally skewing the election due to his posting in here. LMAO.

I’m out for the day boys. It’s been real but it’s exhausting having to lead these guys around like donkeys every time you make a point. I know it’s part of Victor’s schtick but I’m not so sure about the others.



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