Israel/Palestine thread
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Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz threatens Gaza civilians. This is genocidal intent.
I think the world is starting to realize that Hamas = "Palestinians" and "Palestinians" = Hamas. We just had one in this thread pretty much admit it. I used to have sympathy for the Gazans but the more I research the more I find a very high percentage of them support what Hamas is doing. The IDF knows what they are doing and who they are targeting and I assure you its not innocent people.
Hamas releases death tolls literally the second a terrorist sight gets bombed. This is just propaganda made to stir you people up.
Isn't it clever how when a bomb goes off in Israel it's reported that 10 Israelis died but they don't report that many were women and children. If a bomb goes off in Gaza it's 10 Gazans mostly women and children.
that was exactly what the ceasefire entailed. that was literally the most important part of phase 2, which Israel reneged on.
They reneged because Hamas refused to release the hostages. They reneged because Hamas put on a big show of strength every time they did release a hostage. They reneged because Hamas was in the process of planning another October 7th style attack.
Basically, more bad decisions which is going to lead to more bad results.
Are these people really that dumb or just suicidal?
right, bc Israel is dropping 2k bombs on women and children. thats why everyone is so mad.
They reneged because Hamas refused to release the hostages. They reneged because Hamas put on a big show of strength every time they did release a hostage. They reneged because Hamas was in the process of planning another October 7th style attack.
Basically, more bad decisions which is going to lead to more bad results.
Are these people really that dumb or just suicidal?
They reneged because Hamas refused to release the hostages.
this is patently false. Hamas released all of the hostages they were supposed to release. the rest were to be released in phase 2. and another important part of phase 2 was that Hamas was going to negotiate stepping down from control of Gaza.
Israel refused to enter phase 2, thereby reneging on the deal, bc they wanted to kill more Palestinians.
and thats not even getting into all of the violations of phase 1 from Israel.
They reneged because Hamas refused to release the hostages. They reneged because Hamas put on a big show of strength every time they did release a hostage. They reneged because Hamas was in the process of planning another October 7th style attack.
Basically, more bad decisions which is going to lead to more bad results.
Are these people really that dumb or just suicidal?
They want Palestinians to die, especially women and children because it fuels their propaganda machine and riles up their supporters (evidence in this thread).
They want Palestinians to die, especially women and children because it fuels their propaganda machine and riles up their supporters (evidence in this thread).
This has been the plan from the start. Hamas is currently asking for the world to rescue them. People "virtue signalers" buy into this. Obviously this is not a difficult sell for Hamas supporters and Jew haters. Why do you think parents send their kids to Hamas summer camp? They think it's a good thing for their children to become martyrs. These people think differently and thus Israel is treating them differently.
this is patently false. Hamas released all of the hostages they were supposed to release. the rest were to be released in phase 2. and another important part of phase 2 was that Hamas was going to negotiate stepping down from control of Gaza.
Israel refused to enter phase 2, thereby reneging on the deal, bc they wanted to kill more Palestinians.
and thats not even getting into all of the violations of phase 1 from Israel.
Israel has watched Hamas attempt to regroup and plan for another Oct 7th attack.
It's over!
this is patently false. Hamas released all of the hostages they were supposed to release. the rest were to be released in phase 2. and another important part of phase 2 was that Hamas was going to negotiate stepping down from control of Gaza.
Israel refused to enter phase 2, thereby reneging on the deal, bc they wanted to kill more Palestinians.
and thats not even getting into all of the violations of phase 1 from Israel.
As Monodig pointed out, this isn’t what happened. The US attempted to negotiate with Hamas directly, but determined it was all bad faith and came away empty handed.
Meanwhile, Hamas resumed militarizing Gaza, including booby traps, cameras, rocket sites, etc.
They have no intention of stepping down voluntarily or as part of any negotiation.
Yeah no, they didn't do this. Israel unilaterally tore up the ceasefire, murdered 200+ children, ruined the prospects of getting the hostages returned, and you're now fumbling around trying to rationalize why Israel didn't just stick to the ceasefire that they agreed to.
As Monodig pointed out, this isn’t what happened. The US attempted to negotiate with Hamas directly, but determined it was all bad faith and came away empty handed.
Meanwhile, Hamas resumed militarizing Gaza, including booby traps, cameras, rocket sites, etc.
They have no intention of stepping down voluntarily or as part of any negotiation.
why would the US negotiate with Hamas? that wasnt part of the ceasefire. if anything, Hamas actually negotiating with the USA was a sign of good faith.
also, dont forget what happened to the guy who did the negotiations and said 3 things in a TV interview
1. Hamas are not bad guys "with horns coming out of their heads"
2. Hamas has reasonable demands and are on the path to a lasting ceasefire and removal from power
3. Israel does not control the USA.
oh ya they fired that guy a few days later.
Israel refused to go to the agreed upon phase 2 of the ceasefire. this is cut and dry.
oh I forgot, he also called Hamas "pretty nice guys"
https://www.instagram.com/daizygedeon/re...
otoh, he also called them "guys like us" which would make them some of the most evil people in history so I am conflicted.
He is right that Israel has done a masterful job of eliminating Hamas.
BTW...Do you expect this guy to say there is no way Hamas is gonna lay down their weapons? He would be out of a job.
Get over it already. Hamas is dead one way or another.
Do you expect this guy to say there is no way Hamas is gonna lay down their weapons? He would be out of a job.
bruv, you realize the guy got fired after these interviews?
oh I forgot, he also called Hamas "pretty nice guys"
https://www.instagram.com/daizygedeon/re...
otoh, he also called them "guys like us" which would make them some of the most evil people in history so I am conflicted.
When you are negotiating for your life you are probably gonna pretend to be a nice guy.
That was a stupid comment by this idiot. Nice guys don't rape/murder/kidnap.
Nice guys don't rape/murder/kidnap.
agreed. thats why Israel is real bad.
