Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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by Deuces McKracken k

It was the plan but the British blockade stopped it from being executed. It might have failed at other points but the sentiment, that one group feels so superior to the other that they have the right to ethnically cleanse them from their homes, is undeniably equivalent. Your denying it only serves to make you look orthogonal to logic or moral integrity and aligned with fascist Jewish supremacy.

The Madagascar Plan, which proved impractical in the face of the Royal Navy, meant marooning Jews in a place without the infrastructure, water, food supplies or housing to support them, and just leaving them to die. That's why it's distasteful to hear Israelis fantasise about deporting Palestinians to the Sinai desert. Sinai is less remote, and the implication is that neighbouring countries would be forced to render humanitarian assistance, but it's bad talk.


by 57 On Red k

Dance of the Seven Veils

What does this idiom mean?


by 57 On Red k

Hamas-allied groups taking part in a Hamas-led operation are not completely separate from Hamas. (And Hamas could basically find and kill them if it wanted to.) The subordinate groups are part of a Dance of the Seven Veils that Hamas goes in for.

theres no indication they were Hamas allied. I cant find anything on whoever this Lords of Desert or Lord of Wilderness or whatever is called except from Israeli media which calls them "Salafist." Hamas are not Salafist and have been fighting against that ISIS type ideology for years. (While the USA and Israel often fund these terror groups all over West Asia).

(And Hamas could basically find and kill them if it wanted to.)

not really easy to do while under some of the worst bombardment in history. probably why they told Israel to stop bombing them so they could find the innocent captives and return them. but all indications are that Israel did not want the captives back bc they kept bombing and murdering them.

The subordinate groups are part of a Dance of the Seven Veils that Hamas goes in for.

this is pure speculation. would be nice if there were independent investigations on what happened and who did what so that all war crimes could be brought to justice from Oct 7th. but unfortunately, Israel has blocked all investigations.



I just checked Hebrew Telegram and Israeli twitter, and whoo boy is there a lot of celebrations. the dead kids posts get a lot of likes in particular.



Can you maybe explain the metaphor in detail for us?


by Victor k

theres no indication they were Hamas allied.

Hamas, as the ruling party, had quite enough knowledge, and paramilitary and organisational heft, to get rid of them if it wanted. And it didn't want.


by 57 On Red k

Hamas, as the ruling party, had quite enough knowledge, and paramilitary and organisational heft, to get rid of them if it wanted. And it didn't want.

Salafism and ISIS style terrorism has occurred in many countries including the USA and France who have much better intelligence, monitoring, weaponry, and law enforcement. you guys take Hamas to comical levels and all common sense goes out the window.

ffs these guys just took over all of Syria. but sure, some guys who build homemade rocket launchers in tunnels can defeat it.


by 57 On Red k

The Madagascar Plan, which proved impractical in the face of the Royal Navy, meant marooning Jews in a place without the infrastructure, water, food supplies or housing to support them, and just leaving them to die. That's why it's distasteful to hear Israelis fantasise about deporting Palestinians to the Sinai desert. Sinai is less remote, and the implication is that neighbouring countries would be forced to render humanitarian assistance, but it's bad talk.

Once you slaughter 10s of thousands of innocent civilians, or endorse such a slaughter, you can no longer credibly claim to care about how the survivors will fare once they get to wherever you ethnically cleanse them away to.


child murderer ILOVEDEADARABS (I'm not speaking metaphorically, Blue is/was a part of the Israeli murder squads going around, he is quite literally a child murderer and should very obviously be jailed for the remainer of his life for multiple crimes against humanity) is going on about how OTHER people are "insane"

by IMBLUEtheONE k

every time I read a Vic post:

I'm not like them
But I can pretend
The sun is gone
But I have a light
The day is done
But I'm having fun
I think I'm dumb

Kurt Cobain would rise up out of his grave and smack you in the mouth if he knew you were quoting him as a part of your pro-child-murder agenda. You think some Seattle punk would have been a Zionist fan of the US/Israeli war machine? **** off and quote one of the universally loved artists on your side, like Ted Nugent or Matisyahu


you think that if a guy came on here and said he was a member of Hamas, that these child murder advocates would let him post freely?

**** no. A million rafikis would instantly ascend from Hell to scream claims of antisemitism at whatever poor sucker was the moderator at the time. What's the difference? Hamas hasn't yet killed enough innocents to gain the respect of the Zionists?

Seems quite likely that Blue has murdered more innocents than the median Hamas member has.


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by corpus vile k

^^

got 'em



by Karl_TheOG_Marx k

child murderer ILOVEDEADARABS (I'm not speaking metaphorically, Blue is/was a part of the Israeli murder squads going around, he is quite literally a child murderer and should very obviously be jailed for the remainer of his life for multiple crimes against humanity) is going on about how OTHER people are "insane"

Kurt Cobain would rise up out of his grave and smack you in the mouth if he knew you were quoting him as a part of your pro-child-murder agenda. You think some Seattle punk would have

You are insane

Also

I'm so tired I can't sleep
I'm a liar and a thief
Sit and drink Pennyroyal Tea
I'm anemic royalty


by Karl_TheOG_Marx k

you think that if a guy came on here and said he was a member of Hamas, that these child murder advocates would let him post freely?

**** no. A million rafikis would instantly ascend from Hell to scream claims of antisemitism at whatever poor sucker was the moderator at the time. What's the difference? Hamas hasn't yet killed enough innocents to gain the respect of the Zionists?

Seems quite likely that Blue has murdered more innocents than the median Hamas member has.

At first I got some serious sick feelings about posting with a proud IDF soldier who, by his own admission, took part in many massacres including at Al Shifa.

But now I just figure the guy is lying and is just some fraud.


by Victor k

At first I got some serious sick feelings about posting with a proud IDF soldier who, by his own admission, took part in many massacres including at Al Shifa.

But now I just figure the guy is lying and is just some fraud.

You called me a liar from day 1, so this is another lie from you


by Victor k

At first I got some serious sick feelings about posting with a proud IDF soldier who, by his own admission, took part in many massacres including at Al Shifa.

But now I just figure the guy is lying and is just some fraud.

It's probably a gimmick/alt account of someone already here like that gs guy.

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