Ukraine-Russia War Take 2
Here is what the preliminary take on the Ukraine thread disappearing is:
The site was hit with a massive spam attack where hundreds of spam threads were created. In the case where, for example, I see a single spam thread and delete it, that is called a soft delete, and mods can still see them but forum members cannot. Those deletion can be undone.
When a massive attack hits with hundreds of threads, an admin uses a different procedure where the hundreds of spam threads are merged and then hard deleted, where the threads are gone, and no note is left behind. As I have mentioned with my own experience of just soft deleting a large number of posts, sometimes a post or thread gets checked or merged accidentally and is deleted by mistake. Dealing with hundreds of spam threads takes a sledgehammer, not a scalpel.
It appears that our Ukraine thread may have gotten caught up in that recent net of spam threads. If so, it is likely gone for good. I cant say this for sure, and am awaiting comments from admins on this issue. Yes, this sucks. And hopefully there was some other software glitch that caused the disappearance, and we may recover it in the future.
But in the meantime, I have created this new Ukraine-Russia War thread to enable the conversation to continue. Obviously continuity with earlier discussions will be lost. There is no way around that. So as best as possible, let's pick up the conversation with recent events and go from there.
If you have any questions about this, please post them in the mod thread, not here. Let's keep this thread going with posts about the war, not the disappearance of the old thread.
Thanks.
By now, everyone is further convinced that Putin is satan and Trump is the russian controlled manchurian hitler candidate
Saying otherwise doesn't make it less true
This right here.
It's wiiiiiild watching North Americans parrot the other side. WILD.
But Hitler had his fans in the UK and USA too.
right Trump and Putin are Hitler and Satan combined. meanwhile, good guy Dems gave billions in heavy weaponry to a bunch of guys full of "Nordic" tats.
right Trump and Putin are Hitler and Satan combined. meanwhile, good guy Dems gave billions in heavy weaponry to a bunch of guys full of "Nordic" tats.
if you build your world view around not supporting the militaries that have neo nazis or similar then you have no countries left to support. switzerland, maybe?
I have no clue why you support Hamas if you draw the line at bad people doing bad things
lol at this guy not knowing about all the Bandera love in Ukraine. pretty amazing.
Lololol
Thing about this argument in here is that it doesn't matter today. As long as none of you are 70+ or sick, we're going to see this play out in such an obvious way that they'll be no escaping the characterizations. Arguing now is whatever.
The epicly sucky part frankly is that Bibi has hitched his wagon to Trump. Trump has hitched his wagon to Putin. Putin is trying to meditate Iran and the USA.
So suddenly Israel may be part of this bizarre ****ing circus by virtue of trying to survive and suck on Trump's gross teat.
I'm hoping Bibi catches a bullet and sanity might prevail there. But otherwise yikes, this is going to get very confusing. The web of allies and enemies in the middle east is so murky you can't hardly untangle it. But it makes sense that Turkey is ant-Russia, anti-Irsael, pro Syria. So the fault lines are starting to make sense. Iran is the weird one I can't figure. They're stuck maybe become weird USA/Russia allies, and maybe pausing on Israel.
right Trump and Putin are Hitler and Satan combined. meanwhile, good guy Dems gave billions in heavy weaponry to a bunch of guys full of "Nordic" tats.
Putin conducted and invasion that uses concentration camps, mass murder, deconcentration and terrorbombing. Over the three years of this invasion, you have gone to bat for Putin and Russia over some 1500 of posts. Repeating their every propaganda point.
Every once in a while you throw in a tepid "I don't support Russia", and then you go right back to parroting their propaganda, repeating their talking points and pretty much supporting their war with every post you make. It would also surprise me if this is the only place online you have done this.
Most convinced Nazis will never spread and support fascism as diligently and fervently as you have done, and you did it willingly.
That's your political legacy.
Putin conducted and invasion that uses concentration camps, mass murder, deconcentration and terrorbombing. Over the three years of this invasion, you have gone to bat for Putin and Russia over some 1500 of posts. Repeating their every propaganda point.
Every once in a while you throw in a tepid "I don't support Russia", and then you go right back to parroting their propaganda, repeating their talking points and pretty much supporting their war with every post you make. It would also surprise me
no I am the guy who wants a ceasefire and end to the war. you want to extend this war and the genocide in Gaza. thats the legacy of the West.
Suitless Z acting like a spoiled brat the oval Office.
Right Victor?
Why does that Idiot Not wear a suit?
And why is he ****ing with Trump? Such an idiot
tbh I dont care much if he wears a suit, fatigues, or a clown costume. I dont like the guy bc hes a corrupt comprador that sold out the common people of his country to curry favor with the USA Democratic Party.
Yes, Sold auf being nicely put.
Geopolitically the world would be the best off if Russia and the U.S. were major allies and dictated what the rest of the world did. Putin and Trump together could end globalism and basically make Europe, China, and the middle east our bitch. Collectively we'd have world peace like never before, but for some reason the left wants to continually demonize Russia and make them our perpetual enemy. This is because the globalists control the left and Putin and Trump both stand in the way of their plans. It's the bankers...it's always been the bankers.
extorted of all of their money and the money of their family and then sent to the front lines to die. while the commanders and slave catchers and political elites get rich.
Why do they stand in way?
Not only that, they managed to "disappear" 200B and counting of your hard earned cash.
Not even houdoni could have done that.
Republicans just passed about 400 billion a year in tax cuts for the ultra wealthy (4 trillion over 10 years)
On top of incalculable amounts of economic damage going on right now
Geopolitically the world would be the best off if Russia and the U.S. were major allies and dictated what the rest of the world did. Putin and Trump together could end globalism and basically make Europe, China, and the middle east our bitch. Collectively we'd have world peace like never before, but for some reason the left wants to continually demonize Russia and make them our perpetual enemy. This is because the globalists control the left and Putin and Trump both stand in the way of their pla
Globalist bankers huh? You have to be trolling.
When the Soviets put nukes in Cuba we almost blew up the planet over what we saw as an unacceptable encroachment. Russia has been saying for 30 years that a parallel installation in Ukraine is a red line and an existential issue.
The US has at no point contemplated putting intermediate-range nuclear missiles into Ukraine.
Geopolitically the world would be the best off if Russia and the U.S. were major allies and dictated what the rest of the world did. Putin and Trump together could end globalism and basically make Europe, China, and the middle east our bitch. Collectively we'd have world peace like never before, but for some reason the left wants to continually demonize Russia and make them our perpetual enemy. This is because the globalists control the left and Putin and Trump both stand in the way of their pla
Russia is a horrible country to live in with incredibly low quality of life and they actively engage in warmongering.
On top of that Putin is a serial war criminal. He is a constant threat to the democratic world and actively disrupts peace and prosperity around the globe.
Either you hate America and Democracy or you hate Putin. There is no real common ground there.
Trump and Putin are globalists too. they are just a different faction than the libs.
This thread got especially moronic in the last few hours
