President Elon Musk
He probably deserves his own thread at this point, discuss accordingly
it's immoral to prefer to risk wrongfully imprisoning someone for life rather than just killing him.
the state already can wrongfully imprison you for life so going back to when the state actually killed people legally is just better (and more moral) especiatif you account for state mistakes/abuses.
it's far better if the abuse is a bunch of innocent people get killed vs a bunch of innocent people get life no parole. like, not even close.
life has no value absent freedom and it's actually continuin
You're just being dishonest now. You really are a troll. You get to just magically introduce the idea that prison means a life sentence?
Dude, your study showed people adjusted when they were assigned jobs as wheat farmers. Singaporans got jobs as stock brokers.
the study tells you that just a generation creates a divide.
now do 3-4 millennia, and what family culture you get from that, then you move to Singapore and just 100 years passed.
the culture you have will be the ultra -collectivist one and without any violent external enforcing of something else, that's very sticky in a Lamarckian way within families.
the study tells you that just a generation creates a divide.
now do 3-4 millennia, and what family culture you get from that, then you move to Singapore and just 100 years passed.
the culture you have will be the ultra -collectivist one and without any violent external enforcing of something else, that's very sticky in a Lamarckian way within families.
Now you're just making **** up and, unsurprisingly, it's racist and wrong.
You were right that something like rice farming affects culture. And you found a beautiful study showing how well and quickly humans adjust to different conditions.
Now you're just making **** up and, unsurprisingly, it's racist and wrong.
You were right that something like rice farming affects culture. And you found a beautiful study showing how well and quickly humans adjust to different conditions.
you got the take way of the study wrong.
we always knew it had some significant effect.
the study shows it affects people just in a generation in very measurable ways.
so imagine in millennia like southern china.
in Singapore people aren't randomly assigned, violently, to activities. they can express their preferences.
so their family culture will stay without being eroded or moved
Luciom,
When you mean rice farmers, say rice farmers.
Now you post a study that shows that people adjust very quickly when being switched from farming rice to wheat, right?
So are most Asians in Singapore rice farmers? Or did most of them switch to something else? How come they didn't adjust like the people in the study you pointed out?
i didn't read luc's article but as i said earlier this is a widely known thing in asia that's brought up often
and it talks about the cultural and genetic foundation of the two are based in what it took to survive 1,000 years ago in those areas of either being a badass or a collectivist depending on the region and those traits were passed down
the timid and diplomatic would be exploited and less likely to pass on genes in the north and likewise the obstinate and violent would find themselves excluded and less likely to pass down their genes as well
singapore is dominated by southern chinese who come from the rice farming cohort
you got the take way of the study wrong.
we always knew it had some significant effect.
the study shows it affects people just in a generation in very measurable ways.
so imagine in millennia like southern china.
in Singapore people aren't randomly assigned, violently, to activities. they can express their preferences.
so their family culture will stay without being eroded or moved
I don't imagine that it adds up after generations like that. You would think that a little wheat farming would have a hard time making a dent in all that rice farming if it did.
You got the wrong takeaway because you think everything is about genetics, which is what ultra right wingers like you and the Nazis think.
i didn't read luc's article but as i said earlier this is a widely known thing in asia that's brought up often
and it talks about the cultural and genetic foundation of the two are based in what it took to survive 1,000 years ago in those areas of either being a badass or a collectivist depending on the region and those traits were passed down
the timid and diplomatic would be exploited and less likely to pass on genes in the north and likewise the obstinate and violent would find themselves exclu
You don't have to read it all. This is from Luciom's excerpt:
"The differences suggest rice-wheat cultural differences can form in a single generation."
Luciom posts:
"The differences suggest rice-wheat cultural differences can form in a single generation."
and then, woah, turns out it's sticky and builds up over millennia and Singaporeans need a thousand years of stock trading to form cultural differences.
move? I am not a ****ing samurai. the only actual real moral imperative is doing what's best for you, your family, your friends.
Where to? You'd have been getting tossed in a foxhole somewhere. If we even would've taken you it wasn't going to be letting you sit around at that point. Put the new guy on point--if you hear any Italian start talking then duck when we start shooting 😀
did a mod delete my response?
bruh luciom and i disagree on so much stuff and this is where we differ the most - my positions on those issues couldn't be further from what you described
he even came down from on high and commented that living in singapore would be hell
you're so eager to toss in an insult about my positions you didn't even bother to find out what they were
try to keep up
Well I’m glad you clarify it because I often read u « mostly » agree (or sympathies) with Luciom on previous post you made .
Refreshing after all you don’t .
Ps: you should really start reading people instead of assuming all post on you trying to gaslight you in some insults of some kind .
It usually isn’t despite the many attempt you do it on me and other without much reasons lately ….
Well I’m glad you clarify it because I often read u « mostly » agree (or sympathies) with Luciom on previous post you made .
Refreshing after all you don’t .
Ps: you should really start reading people instead of assuming all post on you trying to gaslight you in some insults of some kind .
It usually isn’t despite the many attempt you do it on me and other without much reasons lately ….
bruh, i literally said i wanted a strong competent government
luc says he wants no government
this all happened in the last few posts before you chimed in
just be a man, say you jumped in without reading anything and say "my bad" instead of coming up with this kind of sad excuse for a response
lol my bad mods, sorry for accusation, i found it in another tab unposted
Luciom posts:
"The differences suggest rice-wheat cultural differences can form in a single generation."
and then, woah, turns out it's sticky and builds up over millennia and Singaporeans need a thousand years of stock trading to form cultural differences.
did not read, don't know the science, just know what is commonly accepted as how to describe the difference between northern and southern chinese (there are genetic markers as well)
but i also don't think the two thing would necessarily be mutually exclusive
the local dynamics could be strong enough that they are necessitated to swap once they transition from one to the other, but when not swapping, just relocating, i could see them retaining their cultures
idk if they grow much rice in singapore, and if so the chinese who emigrated there and run the show aren't likely to be farming, but they absolutely do not grow wheat there
I am not an anarchist jfc. I am for government for law enforcement. I am for a very legally violent one. execute all rapists, robbers, car stealer, rioters, anyone who used violence unprovoked at the first offence.
As long it’s law you agree with .
U would please yourself in Saudi Arabia and the like .
They love your kind of justice .
You’re in great company ….
Singapore is a city, not farmland and the Chinese do finance and business and **** and they have Malaysian indentured servants to do all the work. Pretty much.
Wheat farming wasn't the one singular key to undoing the rice farming gene.
their recent ancestors were. it's all southern Chinese.
culture is sticky //
By the 1860s, Chinese migrants made up 65% of the population in Singapore, becoming the majority race. But where did Singapore’s early Chinese migrants come from? There were two main types of migrants, one that came from southern China (Fujian and Guangdong) and another from Southeast Asia.
The migrants from southern China made up the bulk of the influx of migrants. From coastal cities along southern China, these migrants
Fascism too it seem .
bruh, i literally said i wanted a strong competent government
luc says he wants no government
this all happened in the last few posts before you chimed in
just be a man, say you jumped in without reading anything and say "my bad" instead of coming up with this kind of sad excuse for a response
What I’m talking about is from previous weeks up to today .
But « my bad »….
The 1980s were a long time ago.
That picture was from before I was born and I'm really old.
but also, i've long posted about wanting strong government control over things necessary for society - i've posted about these views for years
he says "asians are more predisposed to collectivism" and you guys scream "racist mussolini"
and i respond with - no he's actually talking about facts and something no asian would ever dispute because they say it too
and you think because i call you out on your bs that i'm allies with him and agree with everything when in fact we agree on very little
i feel like cartman visiting sf whenever i venture into the politics threads here because you guys are ridiculous, like to ignore common sense and fact, eager to label everything racist
there's no reason why any of you can't post more like roc and ignore the hyperbolic ad hominen attacks and just stick to discussing the issues
i think this is a cheap strawman sourcing one single aspect and ignoring the bigger picture
even as a pro legalization person i'd rather have this
over this
Ah, so the positive things you've said about Musk and DOGE you said because you think Trump and Musk will fix the wealth inequality gap in America?