RFK - Make America Healthy? again?

RFK - Make America Healthy? again?

I believe this guy is going to need his own thread.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/14...

A department spokesperson confirmed Louisiana Surgeon General Ralph Abraham had ordered his staff to stop engaging in media campaigns and community health fairs to encourage vaccinations, even as the state has experienced a surge in influenza.

well, duh

“Public health is really united on this issue: For more than a century, vaccines of all kinds have been a cornerstone of improving public health in America,” Avegno told the city council on Thursday. “There’s not scientific debate on this, this is as close as you can get to established fact that vaccinations, particularly mass vaccinations, and community immunity, saves millions and millions of lives.”

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14 February 2025 at 09:30 PM
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I haven't gotten a shingles vaccine and barely know it's a thing.

I do know a guy who got shingles and apparently it messed him up.


I'm not against anyone getting whatever vaccine they want by the way.

That is RFK's stated position as well I believe.


by Brian James k

Offed themselves after what? Getting shingles or getting vaxxed?

Getting shingles.

If RFK was up to good things he wouldn't be lying/spreading misleading info so consistently.


by wet work k

Getting shingles.

If RFK was up to good things he wouldn't be lying/spreading misleading info so consistently.

What is he lying/spreading misinformation about exactly? Give some specific examples.


And in further good news.


by Brian James k

I'm not against anyone getting whatever vaccine they want by the way.

That is RFK's stated position as well I believe.

If you didn’t get the COVID vaccine, there is no reason to get the shingles vaccine. Do your own research!

Shingles is just chicken pox. Chicken pox never killed anyone! MAGA!!!

For those of you who did get the COVID vaccine, you definitely want to ask your Dr about the shingles vaccine.

Shingles attacks a particular nerve in the body. If that’s on your back or leg, it’ll be uncomfortable. If you get it in your ear (trigeminal nerve), you will likely end up with loss of hearing and facial paralysis (RamseyHuntSyndrome). How permanent the hearing loss/facial paralysis is depends on how quickly one gets treatment at the onset of the disease.


by MrDavitWilliam k

If you didn’t get the COVID vaccine, there is no reason to get the shingles vaccine. Do your own research!

Shingles is just chicken pox. Chicken pox never killed anyone! MAGA!!!

For those of you who did get the COVID vaccine, you definitely want to ask your Dr about the shingles vaccine.

Shingles attacks a particular nerve in the body. If that’s on your back or leg, it’ll be uncomfortable. If you get it in your ear (trigeminal nerve), you will likely end up with loss of hea

A few years ago I took some vaccines that my doctor said I was due for, not sure if shingles was in there or not. Years ago a former boss of mine got shingles and it sounded like it was pretty god awful.


by Brian James k

What is he lying/spreading misinformation about exactly? Give some specific examples.

Vaccines get Zero safety testing.


by MrDavitWilliam k

Shingles is absolutely awful

Yeah, I had it.
Wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I knew a guy who had it up the crack of his ass and his balls... I can't imagine how gruesome that was.


Why they call it shingles?


by wet work k

Vaccines get Zero safety testing.

Lol


by Dee-Equalizer k

Lol

Yes that's basically an example of something dumb he's said. He's constantly filling the airways with lies/misleading info.


by wet work k

Vaccines get Zero safety testing.

Come on man.

I'll need actual proof of him saying that specifically about all vaccines.

You know how this works.


by Brian James k

Come on man.

I'll need actual proof of him saying that specifically about all vaccines.

You know how this works.

"Vaccines are the only medical product that are allowed to get a license without
safety tests"

Words straight from the dude's mouth lol


by wet work k

"Vaccines are the only medical product that are allowed to get a license without
safety tests"

Words straight from the dude's mouth lol

Lol

Do I need to explain what the definition of proof is to you?

Hint: You saying he said it isn't proof.

And if he did say that, it' s a lot different than saying vaccines get zero safety testing.


He did say they don't get tested rigorously enough.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/20...


by steamraise k
by MrDavitWilliam k

Shingles is absolutely awful

Yeah, I had it.
Wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I knew a guy who had it up the crack of his ass and his balls... I can't imagine how gruesome that was.

Sounds like herp

We sure that’s not herp?

Also shingles definitely suck. My mom gets it and it’s debilitating for her


by Brian James k

Lol

Do I need to explain what the definition of proof is to you?

Hint: You saying he said it isn't proof.

And if he did say that, it' s a lot different than saying vaccines get zero safety testing.

Me not wanting to go pull the pbs transcript for your laziness doesn't mean it's not true lol

Plus you can go thru just about interview with the guy and find similar lies and bs. All very typical anti-vaxxer tactics for ages.


by Brian James k

What is he lying/spreading misinformation about exactly? Give some specific examples.

"He has promoted false claims about vaccines for years – and said in 2021 that he had personally urged strangers to refrain from vaccinating their babies. He encouraged others to do the same."
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Kennedy’s anti-vaccine record has been extensively documented. He has long pushed the debunked claim that there is a link between childhood vaccinations and autism. Among other things, he has also misstated the contents of vaccines, falsely claimed there is convincing evidence that the 1918 influenza pandemic and HIV both originated with vaccine research, and repeatedly touted misinformation about Covid-19 vaccines. In 2021, for example, he baselessly claimed that there had been a wave of “suspicious” deaths among seniors who had taken these vaccines.

It would be more than fair to argue that Kennedy’s years of false claims about vaccines has been tantamount to Kennedy urging Americans to avoid vaccination. But such an argument is not even necessary; Kennedy has explicitly said that he has urged people to avoid vaccination.

NBC News senior reporter Brandy Zadrozny noted Thursday that when Kennedy was asked on the “Health Freedom for Humanity” podcast in 2021 how parents should respond to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention schedule of immunizations for children, which his questioner described as “insane,” he responded by encouraging people to join him in telling strangers not to vaccinate their babies.

“For many, many years, I think parents were so gaslighted, and they were scapegoated, and they were vilified and marginalized, so that even parents of kids who were very, very badly injured, knew what happened to their kid, but they were just reluctant to talk about it. And I think now those days are over,” Kennedy said.

“We – our job is to resist and to talk about it to everybody. If you’re walking down the street – and I do this now myself, which is, you know, I don’t want to do – I’m not a busybody. I see somebody on a hiking trail carrying a little baby and I say to him, ‘Better not get him vaccinated.’ And he heard that from me. If he hears it from 10 other people, maybe he won’t do it, you know, maybe he will save that child.”

Kennedy repeated later in the podcast: “If you’re one of 10 people that goes up to a guy, a man or a woman, who’s carrying a baby, and says, ‘Don’t vaccinate that baby,’ when they hear that from 10 people, it’ll make an impression on ‘em, you know. And we all kept our mouth shut. Don’t keep your mouth shut anymore. Confront everybody on it.”

Kennedy has made similar but slightly softer comments in other forums. He said on another podcast in 2021: “Every one of us has an obligation to do a civil disobedience every day. And that could just be walking up to another person – a mother who’s carrying a baby, like I did this morning – and saying, ‘Before you vaccinate that baby, do your independent research.’”


by Brian James k

He did say they don't get tested rigorously enough.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/20...

And he's wrong about that, too, just like the experts in that article say.


by Brian James k

Lol

Do I need to explain what the definition of proof is to you?

Hint: You saying he said it isn't proof.

And if he did say that, it' s a lot different than saying vaccines get zero safety testing.

“Vaccines are the only medical product that is not safety-tested prior to licensure,” Kennedy said in a July 15 “Fox & Friends” interview.

Just a hilariously bald-faced lie. I mean, the gall it takes to lie like this is unreal.

“None of the vaccines are ever subjected to true placebo-controlled trials,” Kennedy said in a June 15 episode of the “Joe Rogan Experience” podcast. “It’s the only medical product that is exempt from that prior to licensure.”

Another blatant lie. Amazing.

Sorry BJ, he's on record lying about there being no testing for vaccines for a LONG time.

BTW for anyone on the fence about RFK (lol, how?) that article I just linked to is long and excellent. Read through it.

He's a complete moron and a disastrous appointee.


RFK bans red dye 3. bad guy


ya hate to see it


by Gorgonian k

“Vaccines are the only medical product that is not safety-tested prior to licensure,” Kennedy said in a July 15 “Fox & Friends” interview.

Just a hilariously bald-faced lie. I mean, the gall it takes to lie like this is unreal.

The bolded is technically correct. So he wasn't lying.

Hope that helps.


by Brian James k

The bolded is technically correct. So he wasn't lying.

Hope that helps.

No, it absolutely is not. You should've at least read the article.

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