RFK - Make America Healthy? again?
I believe this guy is going to need his own thread.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/14...
A department spokesperson confirmed Louisiana Surgeon General Ralph Abraham had ordered his staff to stop engaging in media campaigns and community health fairs to encourage vaccinations, even as the state has experienced a surge in influenza.
well, duh
“Public health is really united on this issue: For more than a century, vaccines of all kinds have been a cornerstone of improving public health in America,” Avegno told the city council on Thursday. “There’s not scientific debate on this, this is as close as you can get to established fact that vaccinations, particularly mass vaccinations, and community immunity, saves millions and millions of lives.”
NEW: Dr. Deborah Birx admits the COVID shots were pushed on the wrong people, saying the rollout on young people ignored the science.
Now, she tells us.
“The messenger RNA vaccine should have been rolled out for the people that were at risk for severe disease because that’s what the vaccine was developed for,” Birx said.
She also confessed the COVID shot was never “designed” to prevent infection:
“That is not what the COVID vaccine was designed to do. It wasn’t designed against infection.”
People lost their jobs under the lie that no one was safe until everyone was vaccinated.
Now, four years later, they admit young people never really needed it—and it wasn’t even designed to prevent infection.
Nothing that she said is revelatory. In fact, the vaccines were explicitly targeted at those most at risk. Maybe you've forgotten the staggered rollout? Who were the first in line to get them?
Of course vaccines are never designed to prevent infection. It's nice if they do, but their stated goal HAS ALWAYS BEEN to reduce the effects of an infection. This was stated REPEATEDLY and CLEARLY up front.
And no one ever said young people didn't need the vaccine. That's made up garbage from whatever news source you are swallowing whole.
I notice you ran away from the other argument, though. Wise. I guess you finally read the article?
No vaccine prevents infection. It preps your immune system to deal with infection.
It was always known that young people weren't the at risk group of people
My job required me to get the vaccine (a massive DoD contractor no less) and not the government
All this to say, nothing she said is even news, let alone a bombshell
But yeah, do some more laps, maybe it will tucker you on out.
Nothing that she said is revelatory. In fact, the vaccines were explicitly targeted at those most at risk. Maybe you've forgotten the staggered rollout? Who were the first in line to get them?
Of course vaccines are never designed to prevent infection. It's nice if they do, but their stated goal HAS ALWAYS BEEN to reduce the effects of an infection. This was stated REPEATEDLY and CLEARLY up front.
And no one ever said young people didn't need the vaccine. That's made up garbage from whatever news
No. You didn't answer my question.
Crazy, huh? What am I thinking not jumping when you say jump?
edit: you should probably know that not only do I know what a placebo controlled trial is, I have participated in them, ran them, and critically reviewed several.
For starters, the polio vaccine had a randomized placebo-controlled trial of about 600,000 participants. Many, but not all vaccines do (the ones that don't are usually tested against other vaccines instead of against placebos, because that's a better test).
You are hilariously out of your league on this topic.
Here' some more from Deborah.
NEW: Dr. Birx finally admits the government botched the COVID response by overlooking early treatment.
“What I witnessed was a lot of undiagnosed disease that could have been treated early that then resulted in COVID deaths.”
Dr. Birx, who served as Trump’s White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator, had previously admitted that the Biden administration’s vaccine efficacy claims were based on “hope,” not science.
Now, she concedes there should have been a greater focus on early treatment—the very thing dissident COVID doctors had been advocating from the start.
It's hilarious how you say here's some more from Deborah, then quote one sentence she said (with zero context) and then 3 lines explaining what we are supposed to think she meant. Do you not even realize that's what you are doing? If you think she is saying things that support you, you should be quoting entire interviews from her, not clipping single lines and surrounding them with 85% of someone else speaking for her.
I bet you won't do that.
Because he was the president of the United States talking to the American people. LOL not sure if you're serious.
Of course I'm serious. Don't listen to ANY politician for medical issues. NONE. ZERO.
The hell is wrong with you.
"Sorry doc, Biden said my arm isn't broken."
You sound ridiculous.
He got it wrong. Hes the president, not a health expert.
Difference being he was corrected and everyone moved on with their lives, which is the complete opposite of what happens under Trump
Which is kind of the hilarity of RFK saying the Dutch government doesn't endorse Ozempic. The government shouldn't endorse any prescriptions.
It's hilarious how you say here's some more from Deborah, then quote one sentence she said (with zero context) and then 3 lines explaining what we are supposed to think she meant. Do you not even realize that's what you are doing? If you think she is saying things that support you, you should be quoting entire interviews from her, not clipping single lines and surrounding them with 85% of someone else speaking for her.
I bet you won't do that.
It's all on the video.
Of course I'm serious. Don't listen to ANY politician for medical issues. NONE. ZERO.
The hell is wrong with you.
"Sorry doc, Biden said my arm isn't broken."
You sound ridiculous.
Gotcha. Don't listen to him, just let him gaslight the American public, no problem there, just be sure to go check with your own doctor.
Correct. Good.
No. ALWAYS call out medical misinformation, no matter who it is from. Biden was instantly chastised for these comments. Articles doing that are easy to find. Also, not really what gaslight means, but I'll allow it.
Yes, good again.
your image doesn't work which is probably an apropos metaphor
Biden gets it wrong : gaslighting
Trump gets it wrong : troll
