RFK - Make America Healthy? again?
I believe this guy is going to need his own thread.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/14...
A department spokesperson confirmed Louisiana Surgeon General Ralph Abraham had ordered his staff to stop engaging in media campaigns and community health fairs to encourage vaccinations, even as the state has experienced a surge in influenza.
well, duh
“Public health is really united on this issue: For more than a century, vaccines of all kinds have been a cornerstone of improving public health in America,” Avegno told the city council on Thursday. “There’s not scientific debate on this, this is as close as you can get to established fact that vaccinations, particularly mass vaccinations, and community immunity, saves millions and millions of lives.”
Well, you can sleep well knowing a fascist dictatorship will no doubt fix all that.
Gorgos point is you shouldn’t listen to her, not that she didn’t lie.
If we are being generous, this is one week after she took over a massive **** show and maybe she just got it wrong.
But I’ll fully concede she probably just lied
Ultimately the government didn’t force people to get the vaccine. I wasn’t going to get vaccinated until my job forced me. That pissed me off and people were cc’ing 100k people in protest emails but it had nothing to do with Biden, faucci, cdc, or the government
Objectively, trump played the biggest part on fast tracking the vaccine and proliferating the vaccine throughout the country than any other single person. It’s insane to hold resentment against anyone and exclude him. Legitimately insane
Gorgos point is you shouldn’t listen to her, not that she didn’t lie.
If we are being generous, this is one week after she took over a massive **** show and maybe she just got it wrong.
But I’ll fully concede she probably just lied
Ultimately the government didn’t force people to get the vaccine. I wasn’t going to get vaccinated until my job forced me. That pissed me off and people were cc’ing 100k people in protest emails but it had nothing to do with Biden, faucci, cdc, or the government
Objective
His point was you shouldn't listen to the President of the United States because he's not a doctor.
Is his point also that you shouldn't listen to a doctor and CDC Director as well?
And this didn't force people is very disingenuous. Sure they didn't line people up and force an injection in their arm. For travelling you were required to (by the government) and for many (all?) government jobs.
More titbits from the Piers Morgan/Birx interview.
Gorgos point is you shouldn’t listen to her, not that she didn’t lie.
If we are being generous, this is one week after she took over a massive **** show and maybe she just got it wrong.
But I’ll fully concede she probably just lied
Ultimately the government didn’t force people to get the vaccine. I wasn’t going to get vaccinated until my job forced me. That pissed me off and people were cc’ing 100k people in protest emails but it had nothing to do with Biden, fau
It's not exactly a lie. It's just not precise. At the time she said that, it was nearly true. The vaccine was batting about 95% against the strain of covid that was circulating at the time. If you were vaccinated, you almost certainly wouldn't get covid, particularly if everyone had gotten vaccinated (that brings the R under 1).
She over-stated the case and corrected herself publicly shortly afterwards.
Note that even if what she said had been 100% true, it would not contradict what I said, which is what the STATED PURPOSE OF VACCINES is. It is and always has been to lessen the severity of infections.
It's great if it lessens it to 0, but it is not the main, stated goal of it.
Sorry, housenuts, but you are spiking the football without having sniffed the end zone, yet again.
It's not exactly a lie. It's just not precise. At the time she said that, it was nearly true. The vaccine was batting about 95% against the strain of covid that was circulating at the time. If you were vaccinated, you almost certainly wouldn't get covid, particularly if everyone had gotten vaccinated (that brings the R under 1).
She over-stated the case and corrected herself publicly shortly afterwards.
Note that even if what she said had been 100% true, it would not contradict what I said, which
Lol This is just utter bull ****.
You should be ashamed of yourself for spouting such garbage.
I never moved a goalpost, you are just not literate enough to find the endzone in the first place.
To be clear, you tried to prove that the stated goal of the covid vaccine was not to lessen the severity of infections (which was the claim I made) by quoting someone saying that the covid vaccine lessened the severity of infections so much it was all the way down to zero?
You do realize that makes absolutely no sense, whether what she said was true or not, right? Here's a tip: she's reporting (accurately or not) the RESULTS of the vaccine's effectiveness, NOT THE GOAL. You state the goal beforehand.
This is just basic reading comprehension.
Elon defends bobby
This trend of ignorant people “questioning “ science “ is blatantly anti intellectual and really lends to dunning Krueger being rampant. There are such things as dumb questions. You aren’t an intellectual for asking master level knowledge stupid questions that belong in a grade school
welcome to the internet.
thank you for engaging with the post and not refuting it's content, other than spelling.
rookie
Thank you for putting your ignorance and lack of basic comprehension on display for the entire internet to see. It truly warms my heart when you people do this.
What's actually disappointing about this is that I know you're not that illiterate, you are just being dishonest. And that's far worse. You and I both know that. Sad.
It's not exactly a lie. It's just not precise. At the time she said that, it was nearly true. The vaccine was batting about 95% against the strain of covid that was circulating at the time. If you were vaccinated, you almost certainly wouldn't get covid, particularly if everyone had gotten vaccinated (that brings the R under 1).
She over-stated the case and corrected herself publicly shortly afterwards.
Note that even if what she said had been 100% true, it would not contradict what I said, which
You don't need to try to tie yourself in knots trying to defend this stuff. It's plainly obvious that trusted experts and officials weren't truthful at times, and that has damaged the public's trust in institutions. They were also doing their best to protect the public and anti-vax conspiracy theorists have been loons spreading disinformation. None of those things are mutually exclusive.
You don't need to try to tie yourself in knots trying to defend this stuff. It's plainly obvious that trusted experts and officials weren't truthful at times, and that has damaged the public's trust in institutions. They were also doing their best to protect the public and anti-vax conspiracy theorists have been loons spreading disinformation. None of those things are mutually exclusive.
I'm not defending her, I'm defending myself. I'm still upset at the way many medical professionals communicated throughout covid. I cringed every time someone made a public misstatement like that because I know how the conspiracy idiots latch on to that stuff and use it against them (see how they are still doing it all these years later). But that's not what I'm even talking about here.
housenuts accused me of being wrong about something and he's not even literate enough to understand my original statement. Or at least he's pretending not to be.
