2025 NFL Off Season Thread

Been sitting back on the Bork discussion cus I’m prone to hyperbole, but as the resident 9er sufferer I feel I’ve suffered through too many posts on the subject to not interject

1. Bork is clearly a better qb than where he was drafted. He has also clearly demonstrated himself as capable of doing enough to be a starting qb by *checks notes* making it to an NFCCG he woulda won if his elbow didn’t blow up and following it up by getting to overtime in the Super Bowl against the only QB with GOAT equity

1a. He did this while being the first qb Kyle trusted to actually pass the ball. Womp threw NINE FUCKING PASSES in an NFCCG which is how little he was trusted

2. Is Bork an elite qb? Lol no. Is the door closed on him developing into one? Lol no. The potential exists. He does have the arm talent, his biggest problem is he has too much favre in him, but he progresses through his reads very well, and he can make some pretty sweet fucking throws.

2a. The problem is when aiyuk wasn’t dead and Deebo wasn’t completely worthless the fact of the matter is Bork was insanely lucky and got away with a LOT of throws that shoulda been picks

3. I subscribed for the longest time to the idea that you can only give a qb 50 mil+ if they are capable of elevating the talent around them and not needing talent around them. Of which, I think the only qbs that fit the bill are Kermit, Jawsh, RB1 and probably JOE!

3a. This was completely disproved by the eagles last year showing that an intelligent GM is all you need if you are going to overpay an above average but maybe not elite QB

4. We look at the 50 million qbs in the sense that once they get that money the team is fucked, which, reverting back to 3a, the chargers gave sherbert the bag and are a gaggle of buffoons. Predictably they failed. The cowboys gave Dak the bag and are owned and managed by the stupidest 200 year old alive. Predictably Dak had no shot. Tua got all the money but man what the shit happened to Ruxin and friends

5. So where is Bork on the scale of QBs? As pissed as I was all season the reality is the year and a half he started wasn’t a fluke. Yes, there was a lot of talent there, but there is a mountain of evidence that any idiot can’t just walk in under center with a bevvy of talent around them and sleepwalk their way to 2* super bowls in their first 2 years. He (justifiably) took it on the chin for his performance this year but that completely ignores his performance the previous 2 which was objectively impressive. Let’s not forget that if not for Christmas 2023 this guy is an nfl mvp

6. Lynch has demonstrated himself to get a Howie level benefit of the doubt. I’m not gonna be happy if Bork gets 50+, but if Lynch gives it to him there’s a good reason. You can’t possibly do better starting from scratch unless you’re 1 in a million lucky. Don’t forget, when they drafted Bork they cut qbs just to keep him on the roster despite being the last pick. They clearly saw something in the guy day 1 and based on how quickly they finally became a pass first offense when he started relative to the 5 other QBs who started under Kyle for the 9ers (including the guy they traded 3 1sts to grab) this was always the apple of their eyes