LeBron > Jordan GOAT Super AIDS Containment, solved #22999 post by Matt R. (addendum #23174)

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Finals record is a reflection of the team ceiling that a player's skillset yields, so it's no surprise that high-scoring ball-dominators, who turn everyone into spot-up shooter and therefore prevent elite roster construction, cannot produce great teams that perform well on the championship level (bad Finals records).

In contrast to the bad chemistry, weaker teams and bad Finals records of high-scoring ball-dominators, the skillsets that produced all the dynasties, dominant champions, and great Finals records promote better chemistry by having assisted buckets around 50% of the time or more, like bigs or jumpshooters.

LeBron still rocking the garden at 40. Wonderful performance tonight (great win without AD too).

This is going to be amazing. FG implosion in 3.... 2.... 1

Pippen went 6-0 in the finals and wrote the blueprint with MJ and Phil.

He played in the tougher 90's era.

He probably has a higher assisted fg%

Kobe wet the bed and played in the softer defense era.

Jordan/Lebron
Pippen
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01' Western Playoffs

Kobe........... 31.6..... 7.0... 6.2
Shaq........... 29.3... 15.3... 2.5

02' Western Playoffs

Kobe........... 26.6..... 5.9... 4.4
Shaq........... 26.4... 12.7... 2.5

Kobe carried the Shaq to the 01' and 02' Finals and led teams to many championships with "MJ" status and 25-30 ppg, while Pippen was carried as "a pippen" with 15-20 transition points and zero clutch.

Night and day. So your trolling is weak. A good troll requires some facts

1) 40-year Jordan drops 39 in last game at MSG

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=66ZVa-VFX2...

39-year MJ's final game-winner in MSG over Sprewell:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9QTp_N8q0S...

2) If Lebron's best friend Mims was truly seeking weight loss treatment, he would've gone to a regular doctor for testosterone and HCG instead of the biggest provider of PED's to athletes that ever existed.. The only reason the premium black market was accessed was because Lebron can't go to a regular doctor for those items.. The guy that the DEA identified as a drug dealer is in business with Lebron's wife - this is pertinent because it shows that they're all TIGHT... TLDR: Lebron is the Lance Armstrong of the NBA.

3) The NBA rigged the Lakers with 3 times the free-throw differential and 5 times the transaction activity as any other team, which achieved the best roster in the league by far - the Lakers have had DOZENS of starters for other teams riding their bench over the last 6 years as the NBA finely-tuned the Lakers roster into what we see today (a perfectly manufactured roster that ONLY Lebron's horrible brand and chemistry could lose with).

4) The only reason Austin Reaves isn't a 25 ppg all-star and the Lakers winning the last 3 titles is because of Lebron-ball, which has always reduced good players and underachieved favored rosters... Lebron has a losing record with every type of good team, such as 3-4 with preseason favorites, 4-7 with all-star teammates, 4-6 with Finals teams, 4-5 with 1 or 2 seeds, and 3 losses with homecourt... He's simply the biggest loser in NBA history.
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I told you guys it was rigged

Let's look at the facts:

The NBA allows the Lakers to heist AD... Now they coordinate a 5 team deal that gets Luka frieking Doncic... Sandwiched in between the AD and Luka scams are 5 times the transaction activity and 3 times the FT differential.. And the media ignored the DEA catching Lebron's bestie and trainer accessing the premium black market for PED's... Of course, the "decision" means this fraud has been going on for 15 years lol

So fellas, how does it feel to fall for the biggest fraud in sports history?

Thought you said Luka sucked because of assist percentage maths?

He did. Fallguy is a bedwetting fraud and I don’t know why you guys are still engaging with him.

Mainly boredom.

Don't get it twisted - this will be the worst fit ever and it will expose how limited Luka and Lebron's skillset is, just like the Westbrook, or Ingram, Hughes and any other spotty-shooting ball-handler that Lebron ever played with.. However we're about to see unprecedented failure because these are the 2 biggest ball-dominators ever.

Also, this is an FU to Lebron by the Lakers, and to Luka by Dallas.

Finally, Lebron's career is officially over - he isn't the best player on his own team (he hasn't been since 2020, but now everyone knows and agrees).

So the league is rigged in LeBron's favour, but it will be a failure? You can't have it both ways.

He does suck. But they don't know that (Lakers, fans, media), so it still amounts to fraud and an attempt to stack the deck for Lebron.

But you're right - Luka and Lebron are dumb ball-dominators that will have the worst fit ever.. This relieves all stress for me regarding this season - the Lakers might've been coming into their own before this trade, but now this trade ensures that they won't contend........ and Lebron isn't the best player even if they do.

They don't know it will be a failure... Only we do, because we understand assisted rate.

Wow, would AD have a case for top 15 all-time if he brings the Mavs a title like he did the lottery Lakers?

This relieves all stress for me regarding this season - the Lakers might've been coming into their own before this trade, but now this trade ensures that they won't contend and Lebron isn't the best player even if they do.

This will be a great test for bedwetting fallguy’s assisted fg % theory. Lakers are 28-19 right now; a 59.6 winning %. Having the two biggest ball dominators on one team should cause the biggest collapse in NBA history according to fallguy. And LeBron is 40 years old. The Lakers should miss the playoffs now with this much ball dominance on one team and way past his prime LeBron.

Also, the Mavericks swapped a terrible ball dominator for a big with high assisted fg % that carried LeBron the past 4 years. The Mavericks made the finals last year so they should win the title this year pretty easily.

If bedwetting fallguy’s assisted fg % theory is correct of course.

This is truly THE perfect setup to test fallguy’s assisted fg % theory. Like it can’t get more perfect than this.

A terrible ball dominant guard in Luka Doncic just got traded for a highly assisted post player in Anthony Davis that has been carrying the terrible ball dominant LeBron for years. According to the assisted fg % theory, the Mavericks should show a massive, massive improvement and the Lakers will fall off a cliff. After all, assisted fg % is the secret stat that only we know about and is the key to winning basketball.

Literally could not ask for a more perfect experimental setup.

Mark your calendars guys. February 2nd, 2025.

The Lakers are in 5th place in the West at 28-19.

The Mavericks are in 8th place in the West at 26-23 and coming off a finals appearance.

One of the biggest trades in NBA history just happened and a terrible ball dominant guard in Luka Doncic just got traded for an elite highly assisted big in Anthony Davis. I can’t believe two of the worst ball dominant players in history — LeBron James and Luka Doncic — are on the same team now. And Dallas was able to swap Luka for the elite highly assisted big required for a dominant playoff run and/or dynasty.

How quickly will Dallas fly by Luka, LeBron and the Lakers in the standings and win the title this year? It all starts here. The assisted fg % trial by fire. Bedwetting frauds need not apply.

The thread that keeps on giving. Matt R I thought you were once an MJ supporter? But I haven't followed this thread closely in a long time.

I am good, rational argument supporter and fallguy has said some of the stupidest **** I’ve ever heard in my life.

Dallas is the greatest team of all time now. Davis and Irving, who both carried LeBron to titles have teamed up. Unstoppable.

That is absolutely true. No one will be able to stop this superteam of players that carried LeBron to the majority of his titles. The 2025 Dallas Mavericks are going to completely dominate according to bedwetting fallguy’s multi-year long argument. Literally all of his arguments are converging in 2025 onto two teams: the LA Lakers and Dallas Mavericks. Think of all the assisted field goals and titles Dallas will achieve. Can’t wait to see the unassisted field goals of the LA Lakers, and therefore their team to completely collapse. Fallguy will finally be vindicated; there will be no bedwetting here.

FG is insane but there’s a pretty good chance this made both teams worse this year with how they’re built.

The big win for the Lakers is giving up so little to be relevant for the next decade, not necessarily shipping this year imo.

Oh no one thinks LA is going to win a ring this year, but remember, Dallas swapped a terrible ball dominant guard for an elite assisted big that has been carrying LeBron for the last 5 years. And they made the finals last year. Due to the theorem of assisted field goal % they must be better. A lot better because of how ball dominant Luka is. So they will roll through the playoffs untouched.

And LA is going to completely collapse because they have two of the most ball dominant players ever on the same roster now.

This is all based on ball dominance and assisted fg % of course — I am not saying it’s correct but we have the perfect setup to test all of this.