2024 World Series of Poker May 28th to July 17th ***No Spoilers***

Doesn't seem likely it's close mathematically if I constructed a range I thought he'd have there, a solver though probably has a call there (I'm not looking it up) with a non club king vs someone else playing as one but vs a human? Ax clubs AQ clubs possibly Kx clubs something like that maybe AK with a club, vs all overpairs, sets, etc. Not sure it's there from a human standpoint and I also don't remember griff overbet bluffing that size offhand, maybe he did at one point. Astedt in the post interview said griff's a wildcard and sometimes you have to guess, and he guessed wrong.

You're not wrong, but isn't this the case with every play labeled a "punt"?

Can't really blame him for doing this in a once in a lifetime spot. It's on WSOP to ban it. Looks sososo bad seeing that on stream.

This, all of this. And even if the Main does make mainstream news, which it still sort of does, access to online poker has far more to do with any uptick in participation. This is why I often hold that Chris Moneymaker's role in igniting the 2000s boom is somewhat overrated (while also not insigificant), that the growth of online poker in the U.S. had far, far more to do with it. But when I say that in the wrong place, I swear the casual fans in the room want to declare a fatwa.

Right now, at least in much of the U.S., there's not much that can be done in that regard. Drawing thousands or even millions to a venue accomplishes nothing if the doors are still locked (Colombian and Argentinian football fans notwithstanding).

As for the bolded, I thought similar when Shiina Okamoto was getting some screen time, that she was the ultimate exception to the "no one champion does a poker boom make" rule. Of course, I'm at best the 12,312th person to think of that when it came to her.

https://twitter.com/JoshuaArieh/status/1...

Arieh made a good point that they should've had a nick/ali recap postgame style show with a winner interview; I can understand pokergo almost certainly loses a lot of money but that event should have a little exception to the others.

wait is anyone actually concerned about the rail looking up hands and telling the player afterwards if they made an EV/frequency mistake or not?

like if you happened to have a bunch of really good players in the rail who would know the answer to a spot and basically tell you afterwards that you messed up wouldn't that be the exact same thing?

I’m not

It’s not a good look though at all and anyone with a decent EQ and awareness would realize that

But we get it, there was a lot of money on line so they just did what they did. But they shouldn’t act uppity about it afterwards

haha oh jeeez... all this time, I'd referred to the guy on Tamayo's rail as "laptop guy" or "corner man," not knowing that was Dominik Nitsche. Add poker to the long list of arenas in which I know many names while at the same time having no idea what they look like.

Who was using a phone in the hand? Every thing Tomayo was doing would still happen under A or B. And B pretty much is current rule.

Didn't they say during the updated announcements before every tournament that solvers of any kind could not be used anywhere in the tournament area? Pretty sure it did, and the rail of the final table certainly is in the tournament area.

I thought it was Poindexter

I thought I heard the same thing. I was honestly waiting for them to have security come in and escort his rail out

Get a hotter wife.

WSOp is notorious for being an old boys club. Look at guys like Men the master who are allowed to cheat over and over because they were once a WSOP household name. There’s absolutely no way that behavior would be allowed at a WPT or Triton event, let alone the final table. It’s laughable. If it wasn’t a past ME champ and a rail full of big name pros they would have said something.

To use solvers it's probably an unfair advantage vs. someone who not use it. But poker is a game/'sport' where ethics doesn't count much. Did you hear in the video, Nitzsche says to Toamayo something like: go to him (to Griff) and shake his hand.
Thats says it all..If you have somekind of charakter, it should be the first thing after the match to go to the opponent and shake his hand.

I can’t see someone being afraid to upset the star power of Dom Nitschke

I doubt anyone was paying attention or realized and that’s if it was against the rules. I don’t know the rules

As someone who plays a seemingly very basic level I’m confused to what advantage a computer could give you after the hand. Sure they can see the hands being played in the delay but could Griff just adjust his play anyway.

😃

Just on a basic level, could have stack sizes plugged in and show him optimal opening ranges, calling, 3 betting ranges etc. or the next hand.

qft

a change needs to be made. several years past due at this point

qft

a change needs to be made. put the focus back on the table. have a stage/set-up that doesn't allow the players to stray from the table to speak to anyone (their only interaction w other ppl should only take place during breaks). block any sounds that aren't table talk

nsis

this

meh

Player A: "How much are you playing?"

Player B (30 seconds later): "About 33, 34 million."

brutal

epic cringe moment among many for Lon this WSOP

players are allowed to access their phones during a hand?

who knew

qft

Lol, they weren't working backwards and running sims on previously played hands to see if he played it correct lol.

I also think it's likely they were looking at the preflop gametree for e.g. playing the BB at 45bb with a 1 bb ante, which is cheating - at least in a fair game sense.