Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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aside from the women and children, record numbers of doctors, aid workers, un staff, journalists, etc being straight up assassinated ... no other conclusion to draw but genocide joe actually likes it, really. sickening
4 more kkhhhamasss down, including a kkhhhamasss doctor. the kind of beautiful live-saving precision-strike we can all get behind 👍👍
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-n...
US allegedly presented Tehran list of Mossad agents involved in Haniyeh assassination - report
--Pretty wild if this is true. We know the Democrat Party has been uncomfortably sympathetic to the IRI, to the point of there being credible evidence 2 of Obama's top advisors being spies for Iran, with one of them is under investigation now. But this would obviously be taking things to the next level.
True or false I am not s
Which obama advisors were iranian spies?
72off and Victor, this is a warning to please pull back the sarcastic/trolling posts that contain no real content. Thanks, guys
72off and Victor, this is a warning to please pull back the sarcastic/trolling posts that contain no real content. Thanks, guys
The real content is that Israel used precise munitions to murder a doctor, her mom, and her 2 newborn twins. This is a point of contention bc many in this thread have argued vociferously that these munitions will minimize civilian death.
Further, this has been reported all over mainstream media. So if we are going to have a rule that things reported in Guardian, CNN, Reuters etc are "no content" bc they make Israel look bad then well just come out and say it.
Most of these strikes don't get traction in the Western press but I suspect that this one gained quick notoriety bc the Mom and Dr was working closely with Western aid orgs and a respected American named Steve Sosebee.
disrespectful of joy to suggest that kamala could/should be doing literally anything other than repeating brandon's thoughts & prayers type rhetoric, and extremely disrespectful of the majority report gang to report that israel are using civilian detainees as bomb-sniffing human shields, rioted in defense of their civilian detainee rape/torture program, killed 160+ journalists, lied about killing their own citizens via the hannibal directive, etc
Why would Israel want a cease fire? The job is not done. Also, I think they want Iran to attack so they can wipe out all of their enemies for once and for all.
yes that is the point. Israel is operating in bad faith. this has been apparent since day 1. however it is borderline bannable to suggest they are cynically using the negotiations in this fashion and to place blame anywhere but Hamas.
The real content is that Israel used precise munitions to murder a doctor, her mom, and her 2 newborn twins. This is a point of contention bc many in this thread have argued vociferously that these munitions will minimize civilian death.
Further, this has been reported all over mainstream media. So if we are going to have a rule that things reported in Guardian, CNN, Reuters etc are "no content" bc they make Israel look bad then well just come out and say it.
The above, I agree, is content. You and 72off riffing back and forth is not. We’re trying to minimize general mockery and other inflammatory posts. Thanks, friend
The real content is that Israel used precise munitions to murder a doctor, her mom, and her 2 newborn twins. This is a point of contention bc many in this thread have argued vociferously that these munitions will minimize civilian death.
Further, this has been reported all over mainstream media. So if we are going to have a rule that things reported in Guardian, CNN, Reuters etc are "no content" bc they make Israel look bad then well just come out and say it.
If Israel did not have any precision weapons, do you think they wouldn't have attacked here?
The above, I agree, is content. You and 72off riffing back and forth is not. We’re trying to minimize general mockery and other inflammatory posts. Thanks, friend
and yet you only police this in one direction. blatant support of murder of Palestinian civilians (see the campfire post and most lucium posts) is allowed in this thread. blatant mockery of their plight is allowed (just about every post from the Israeli supporters). celebrating their deaths is allowed. cheerleading and gloating over people "living in tunnels like rats" is perfectly fine.
I mean Phresh shat all over the thread for days insulting anyone who isnt full throttle in support of the Israeli onslaught and he ended up getting banned for his trans posts, but not this thread. anyone who doesnt support Israel would have gotten a perma if they posted like him.
so some very bland humor is verboten if it even remotely lampoons the Democrats and the Israelis.
I dont mind the hypocrisy and double standards but its the lack of honesty that bothers me. at least have the decency to label this a pro-Israel thread where support for Palestine and criticism of Israel should be muted.
Victor, my dude, BOTH sides are constantly accusing me of being biased toward the other.
I’m just doing my best here. Please let’s just try to cooperate.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education...
UCLA can’t let protests block Jewish students from campus, judge rules
So in other news, a federal judge ruled that UCLA (a public university) could not blatantly violate the 1st amendment and enable protestors discriminating against Jews.
UCLA's officials disagreed with the ruling (and apparently disagree with the 1st amendment itself when Jews are involved) and said they are weighing all their options, including possibly appealing,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education...
UCLA can’t let protests block Jewish students from campus, judge rules
So in other news, a federal judge ruled that UCLA (a public university) could not blatantly violate the 1st amendment and enable protestors discriminating against Jews.
UCLA's officials disagreed with the ruling (and apparently disagree with the 1st amendment itself when Jews are involved) and said they are weighing all their options, including possibl
Are they still out there doing this nonsense? Did any good come from these illegal occupations? How many millions did this cost tax payers?
There should never be another ceasefire until Hamas is 100% wiped out. It's not Israel's fault that the average Gazan and Hamas are only distinctly different entities in the minds of the brainwashed Western audiences. Finkle is Einhorn.
You seem to think demanding the Jews sacrifice their actual lives to protect Arabs from the repercussions of their own hateful ideology is morally just or something. It isn't. It's idiotic and anti-Semitic. I want Hamas eradicated
How about you indulge me in actually explaining what your stance is? I think it's anti-Semitic to:
- blame Israel for civilian casualties caused by Hamas' human shield tactics
- not hold Arabs accountable for stopping violence against Israelis
can you tell me what you think Israel should do if not try and severely cripple Hamas? They'll never fully eradicate them so even trying is stupid?
If someone is going to keep trying to kill me for no reason, I'm not worried about giving them a reason when I retaliate or defend myself. [...] These imbeciles believe the perfect person was their child marrying warlord who ordered the beheading of infidels himself.
their hatred of Jews and Zionism is rooted in their Islamic faith. [...] I'd rather have 20,000 neutered religious maniacs trying to kill me than 10,000 with actual capability. If they want to live in the stone age and keep getting bombed by Israel, I'm happy to keep sending tax dollars
I think bombing them farther back to the stone age than they were already in is a better deterrent.
Plenty of civilians are just as bad as members of Hamas and they participated in 10/7 on their own [...] It's an absolute fallacy that there's some clear delineation between Hamas and civilians
i stopped after the first ~10, but there's 25 of them, and they're all about the same ..... if you wanna beat the bias allegations, maybe start by treating genocidal dogshit like this as seriously as "mocking israel"
Why would Israel want a cease fire? The job is not done. Also, I think they want Iran to attack so they can wipe out all of their enemies for once and for all.
It has always seemed the case that netanyhau wants that confrontation with the usa embroiled. He may get his way
but any idea of 'once and for all' makes no sense. There will be an afterwards.
i stopped after the first ~10, but there's 25 of them, and they're all about the same ..... if you wanna beat the bias allegations, maybe start by treating genocidal dogshit like this as seriously as "mocking israel"
You are bringing up posts of a banned poster to "prove" the mods are favoring said poster?
It has always seemed the case that netanyhau wants that confrontation with the usa embroiled. He may get his way
but any idea of 'once and for all' makes no sense. There will be an afterwards.
The IRI, its proxies, and Hamas can all foil Netanyahu's nefarious plot by giving back the hostages and stop attacking Israel; so Netanyahu has no excuse to escalate.
he was banned for being a transphobe in a different thread, not for any of that. my mocking posts get deleted for being "inflammatory", but those are a-ok
(evidenced by the fact that they're still there)
meanwhile if anyone said anything like that about israel i suspect they'd have their account nuked, be ip banned, etc
Are they still out there doing this nonsense? Did any good come from these illegal occupations? How many millions did this cost tax payers?
UCLA is in summer break. But everyone assumes various shenanigans will ensue once school reboots in September.
To be serious, UCLA's argument is that appeasing protestors (by allowing them to tell Jews where on campus they are and are not allowed to go) is the best way to defuse such situations peacefully without police getting involved. The only problem with this argument is:
1.) Their "solution" didn't actually work, as there was a lot of violence and police had to eventually come in anyways to clear the campus.
2.) It is a blatant violation of the 1st Amendment
he was banned for being a transphobe in a different thread, not for any of that. my mocking posts get deleted for being "inflammatory", but those are a-ok
(evidenced by the fact that they're still there)
meanwhile if anyone said anything like that about israel i suspect they'd have their account nuked, be ip banned, etc
I think Crossnerd actually bans your posts so she has an excuse not to ban you; to wipe away the incriminating evidence. I would say she is actually favoring you in this case.
