Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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the committee of national security and defense just issued a warning to Israeli fans not to fly to a basketball game in Italy, as there are already chats in Muslims organized groups to "wait" to the fans.
Jal, please explain to us how the Hooligans irritated them by chanting "defense", as it reminds them of the israeli DEFENCE forces or something
The huge dollop of irony here is it proves why Israel exists - the moment Jews decide to step out of their home, they are systemically hunted down and threated with eradication by anti-Semites.
You mean the moment Israeli football hooligans step out of their home to attack Muslims abroad they face retaliation which goes much too far.
Hmmmm
Sound familiar?
btw conflating Israel fans with Jewish people is highly anti-Semitic of you.
"A RETALIATION"
Jal, watch every video from the link I posted and please claim it is a retaliation.
I clicked but it's not clear which side is which, as evidenced by the video Vic posted above, and the text is all Dutch.
However, when you see a group of thugs pulling down the flag of Palestine from someone's house and chanting, it's pretty clear which side they are.
You mean the moment Israeli football hooligans step out of their home to attack Muslims abroad they face retaliation which goes much too far.
Hmmmm
Sound familiar?
btw conflating Israel fans with Jewish people is highly anti-Semitic of you.
calling us Jewish people and not Jews in anti-sematic
I have a Dutch Jew on my X feed who says what happened yesterday is actually fairly typical for Netherlands. He says for decades Muslim immigrants have been harassing, intimidating and physically attacking Jews. It is a little more animated in the last year, but it has been this way for a long time. He says Netherland Jews have learned to just travel with lots of security and avoid certain areas, and know when it is time to duck and run. And the Dutch authorities are very knowledgeable of what is going on, and very indifferent towards it all.
He said the problem is when outside Jews visit they have no clue how things work in Netherlands, so they aren't prepared.
I clicked but it's not clear which side is which, as evidenced by the video Vic posted above, and the text is all Dutch.
However, when you see a group of thugs pulling down the flag of Palestine from someone's house and chanting, it's pretty clear which side they are.
It is unlcear????
are you a complete liar????
do you claim the Israeli's are shouting at the Muslim free Palestine maybe?
And the accents aren't a dead give away.
I had no respect for you before, but this is a new low even for you
the committee of national security and defense just issued a warning to Israeli fans not to fly to a basketball game in Italy, as there are already chats in Muslims organized groups to "wait" to the fans.
Jal, please explain to us how the Hooligans irritated them by chanting "defense", as it reminds them of the israeli DEFENCE forces or something
Was my reply to you earlier so unexpected it melted your brain?
I'm a peaceful person and wouldn't get violently involved, but I'd defend anyone who reacted to those genocidal taunts with a punch in the face of the aggressor.
If you were racially abused to your face I'd defend your right to do that.
Of course it's not right to attack people indiscriminately which is one reason the original fascist football hooligans' behaviour was so abhorrent.
the Muslim in Italy are organizing an attack before any fans even flew to Italy.
Please explain that
you are having your worst posting day since I was here.
A friendly advice, take some time off for today and let your anti-sematic rational recharge
Why are you asking me to explain something I know nothing about and have seen no evidence of.
I don't know, maybe it's true, maybe it's more BS.
They are coming to my city today. Security is enhanced a lot, but i am not aware of an official government warning about specific groups preparing to assault Israeli.
I am aware of a generic enhanced probability of that happening which we are planning for, for cautionary purposes.
We don't have any specific muslim violence in my city basically ever. We don't have muslim gangs or anything of the sort. We have a lot of immigrants, including from poor muslim countries, but there is no organized immigrant group that uses violences, threatens and so on. The radical italian left here is strong and that's who is very antisemite and threatens violence and often does violence in the street protesting pro Hamas.
There are sporadic problems with violent groups of immigrants but usually when there are short term mass arrivals of "asylum seekers", which hasn't happened for a while.
Some other cities in the north west have however large enough muslim communities that could send violent groups here in Bologna and i think we are planning for that to happen.
Can you link an italian source on that? i can't find any even on right-wing ultra pro Israel , ultra-against muslim mainstream sources.
First page of mako:
the site of the committee: https://www.gov.il/he/pages/italy2
the warning:
https://www.gov.il/he/pages/bolognawarni...
I don't have Italian sources, only what was posted by the committee
Which committee? The official Islamophobic committee of the genocide?
this is the stuff that gets buried while the media (and this thread) argue over bullshit.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...
as I have been saying since beginning, the death toll is a massive undercount and they have no way to even count.
