Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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This depends on your criteria. I assume you think something like voting rights needs to be restricted to qualify. I think the Natuonality Bill and the laws surrounding right of return and marriage:
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-eas...
are enough for everyone else to be expressly second class. The laws are designed to prioritize the nation for one group of people over all others. You can say it’s necessary if you want but that’
These people chose to live in a Jewish nation. I don't think they are being forced to be there. They lead a higher quality of life than they would in a Muslim nation. Ironically, there are about 30 Muslim nation where Israeli Jews are not allowed to enter. Some do allow them technically but they harass them and make it a miserable experience. This is the difference with Israel who allows all people to visit as long as they are well behaved.
they took out the leadership a month ago. why are they still leveling apartment towers?
why are they deliberately attacking paramedic facilities all throughout Lebanon?
why are they bombing displaced families all throughout Lebanon including in Northern villages?
and further, like always, you got your facts backward. Hezbollah arose BECAUSE of Israel's illegal and murderous occupation during the civil war. Israel didnt invade bc of Hezbollah. Hezbollah didnt even exist then! they formed bc of
Let's have this discussion please.
First, to answer your question, we are attacking ammunition storages and Hezbollah operatives. But mostly the ammunitions.
It is sad that we find in every house in every village ammunition, missiles and such.
As for Hezbollah, before addressing the reason it was formed, first answer me that – why did Israel invade Lebanon in the first place?
"We" know nothing about what is or isn't there. The Israeli intelligence knows exactly what is there. If the IDF is bombing it then there is a military reason for it. You can continue to have fun speculating and thinking you know better if that makes you happy.
they took out the leadership a month ago. why are they still leveling apartment towers?
why are they deliberately attacking paramedic facilities all throughout Lebanon?
why are they bombing displaced families all throughout Lebanon including in Northern villages?
and further, like always, you got your facts backward. Hezbollah arose BECAUSE of Israel's illegal and murderous occupation during the civil war. Israel didnt invade bc of Hezbollah. Hezbollah didnt even exist then! they formed bc of
Most of this post is nonsense, but the IDF did kill one of the few senior Hezbollah members left in a strike in Beirut yesterday.
they took out the leadership a month ago. why are they still leveling apartment towers?
why are they deliberately attacking paramedic facilities all throughout Lebanon?
why are they bombing displaced families all throughout Lebanon including in Northern villages?
and further, like always, you got your facts backward. Hezbollah arose BECAUSE of Israel's illegal and murderous occupation during the civil war. Israel didnt invade bc of Hezbollah. Hezbollah didnt even exist then! they formed bc of
The issue with a few people in this forum is that they only look for information that supports their narrative. I would highly recommend taking a timeout from your usual sources and get a little more objectivity. I used to do the same thing and then realized I'm not learning anything. It's hard to take anyone seriously who has clearly picked a side and is just spouting hate.
Let's have this discussion please.
First, to answer your question, we are attacking ammunition storages and Hezbollah operatives. But mostly the ammunitions.
It is sad that we find in every house in every village ammunition, missiles and such.
As for Hezbollah, before addressing the reason it was formed, first answer me that – why did Israel invade Lebanon in the first place?
there isnt ammunition in every house. nobody believes this ****. well, maybe extremely stupid and racist people believe it.
they invaded to go after the PLO bc Israel has its own jihad against Palestinians and as we have seen in Amsterdam recently and in many other countries over the years, they will pursue them to the ends of the earth to eradicate them.
As it was an intelligence failure that didn't prevent 7th Oct I'm going to be a bit skeptical that the inteligence is close to perfect.
It's easy to claim it is but it's very unlikely.
As it was an intelligence failure that didn't prevent 7th Oct I'm going to be a bit skeptical that the inteligence is close to perfect.
It's easy to claim it is but it's very unlikely.
It's up for debate whether this was an intelligence failure. Israel knows when a pigeon is sitting on the Gaza wall but wasn't able to detect the Oct 7th attacks? I'm not a conspiracy theorist and in fact used to hate these people. I now am a little more questioning when it comes to mind blowing situations like this. There are a lot of questions here that need to be answered.
I would imagine that the Israeli intelligence isn't perfect regarding it's bombings but it's pretty darn good. They probably do make mistakes.
there isnt ammunition in every house. nobody believes this ****. well, maybe extremely stupid and racist people believe it.
they invaded to go after the PLO bc Israel has its own jihad against Palestinians and as we have seen in Amsterdam recently and in many other countries over the years, they will pursue them to the ends of the earth to eradicate them.
In 15 houses in one street that my unit entered in Kfarkela, we found more weapons than my entire unit has. Your personal beliefs are irrelevant.
In every room almost, in every yard, in every hiding place. Missiles that are already targeted to fire into Israel.
There were no "clean" houses. Not even one.
As for the reason we invaded Lebanon, it was to operate against the PLO. But your reason for doing it is a lie.
The PLO were firing missiles (Katyushas) into Israel, invaded Israel and butchered kids in class and fired from across the border almost daily.
In 15 houses in one street that my unit entered in Kfarkela, we found more weapons than my entire unit has. Your personal beliefs are irrelevant.
In every room almost, in every yard, in every hiding place. Missiles that are already targeted to fire into Israel.
There were no "clean" houses. Not even one.
As for the reason we invaded Lebanon, it was to operate against the PLO. But your reason for doing it is a lie.
The PLO were firing missiles (Katyushas) into Israel, invaded Israel and butchered
link to your tiktok pls, Id like to see all these weapons.
The Litany operation in 1978 was the first time Israel invaded Lebanon. The straw that broke the camels back was the BLOOD BUS MASSACRE, when PLO operatives from Lebanon invaded from Lebanon and murdered 35 Israelis.
We operated for 3 months and went back out, which alone counters all your arguments about the motives behind the operation.
Sadly, things got worst and in 1982 the Lebanon war broke
Hezbollah is a political party and the most popular governing entity in Lebanon. its not illegal to "spread pro Hezbollah propaganda" just like its not illegal to spread Israeli and American lies. I dont suggest drone striking Matt Miller.
I dont care what you beleive.
Just to make it interesting:
I claim to have been also to Ramallah, Jenin, Bet Lehem, Hebron and more.
you can add this to your disbelief
One one hand we have a poster with first hand experience of the conflict, and on the other hand we have some guys who have been ingesting antisemitic propaganda for a year straight and have never set foot in the ME. Both have their obvious biases.
It's up for debate whether this was an intelligence failure. Israel knows when a pigeon is sitting on the Gaza wall but wasn't able to detect the Oct 7th attacks? I'm not a conspiracy theorist and in fact used to hate these people. I now am a little more questioning when it comes to mind blowing situations like this. There are a lot of questions here that need to be answered.
I would imagine that the Israeli intelligence isn't perfect regarding it's bombings but it's pretty darn good. They proba
I dont believe in a conspiracy theory here. That would make what's happening as pure evil.
I do think the claim the intelligence is close to perfect is a very easy for them to claim to make but is highly unlikely to be true. Maybe it's quite good.
