Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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Is it the Onion or Haaretz? Make your prediction, then click to find out.
lol
Holy crap
AI can now think independently and logically that’s crazy
Feels like we’re living in the Terminator
You are trying to prove that Israel ordered and directed the massacre, by providing references that Isreal trained and armed the Christian Phalanges, and you don’t get why this is just once more your flawed logic.
I'll help you understand again the basic facts.
Everyone knows Israel trained and armed the Christian Phalanges. As I stated in a previous post, they eventually became an official army (Tzadal) that worked alongside Israel for almost 20 years, and many received Israeli citizenship.
The conclusion that you are trying to draw from that is false and stupid.
Israel is not responsible for every act or action the Christian Phalanges and/or Tzadal did.
to end this matter, not only you didn’t refute my "lie", you showed yourself again to be a very not intelligent person
Vic: no hostages were sexually assaulted
amit soussana: I was
Vic: as I said, no hostages were sexually assaulted
so a rape victim claiming she was raped is not considered evidence?
from reading the NYT article the wording they use is "a sexual act".
regardless, its the height of bad faith to act like this is somehow validating the lurid and insane tales of organized violent gang rapes and impregnation of hostages that have been promoted by pro-Israel social and press media.
iirc the guard was punished by Hamas once again showing that this was not organized and acceptable behavior despite the media claims.
why are you arguing with something someone else said. you are debating me. this is such a straw man tactic.
also, amit just gave a new interview. she is detailing an horrific ordeal.
why do you feel the need to deflect and defend such deeds? why cant you just say it was horrific?
from reading the NYT article the wording they use is "a sexual act".regardless, its the height of bad faith to act like this is somehow validating the lurid and insane tales of organized violent gang rapes and impregnation of hostages that have been promoted by pro-Israel social and press media.iirc the guard was punished by Hamas once again showing that this was not organized
The amusing thing is the second paragraph perfectly encapsulates your rhetoric on organized mass rape and torture of Palestinian prisoners. With zero proof, it is mostly just literally made up by you and the pure propaganda sources you follow. But you have zero self awareness.
And yes yes, I know there was a report of a single alleged incident of a prisoner being sexually molested which you have crafted an entire epidemic around. And the incident itself was investigated and found to not have happened. And even if it had happened, the way you talk about organized mass rape of prisoners would still be pure bad faith.
from reading the NYT article the wording they use is "a sexual act".regardless, its the height of bad faith to act like this is somehow validating the lurid and insane tales of organized violent gang rapes and impregnation of hostages that have been promoted by pro-Israel social and press media.iirc the guard was punished by Hamas once again showing that this was not organized
The wild thing is I follow Israel press media accounts and some social media accounts (in English) and none of this ever happened as far as I know. I dont think I have seen a single allegation of organized violent gang rapes or impregnation of hostages (I know Blue brought up one hostage may have gotten pregnant, but I dont know where he got his information from, as it isn't something I had ever seen before he brought it up).
why are you arguing with something someone else said. you are debating me. this is such a straw man tactic.
also, amit just gave a new interview. she is detailing an horrific ordeal.
why do you feel the need to deflect and defend such deeds? why cant you just say it was horrific?
so your only point in posting that was that a horrific thing happened? where did I say it wasnt horrific?
The wild thing is I follow Israel press media accounts and some social media accounts (in English) and none of this ever happened as far as I know. I dont think I have seen a single allegation of organized violent gang rapes or impregnation of hostages (I know Blue brought up one hostage may have gotten pregnant, but I dont know where he got his information from, as it isn't
A social worker from the government has been working with a family for the past 3 months, working with them how to cope in such a case. The hostage brother is an acquaintance.
It doesn't mean she was raped, or she is pregnant, but it is a tell that at the least this is a possibility.
Ive never said she was lying. I cant see any reason not to believe her. and if anything her story is further evidence that the whole mass rape thing was a massive hoax.
People defending Hamas and their hostage taking and down playing rape is disturbing. I know there is a lot of hatred toward Israelis but when you start to dehumanize them that is crossing the line.
downplaying it by pointing out that it does not fit the narrative that was used to justify a genocide?
anyway, all of the women are out now and predictably none are pregnant despite what the Israeli influencer media fearmongered about for over a year.
You're right and they were hostages (POWs are all hostages anyway), same as thousands of Palestinians held without charges.
Words are important. POWs family speak to the media doesn’t have the same emotional grunt as hostage’s family speak to the media.
That’s why it’s phrased in that way.
Are you disturbed?
