President Elon Musk

President Elon Musk

He probably deserves his own thread at this point, discuss accordingly

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21 December 2024 at 02:21 PM
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by corpus vile k

I believe in inclusivity. You could name it the gulf of Italy if you like.

Well because it um, said so on the map.

ok so do you it's fascist to call Dublin Baile Átha Cliath, because it was , um, Dublin on the map before?


by Playbig2000 k

This isn't true at all.

This administration talks to the press every day, unlike the ice cream regime who they kept hidden away.

The AP failed to recognize or respect Trump's renaming of the gulf. I'm really surprised that he still let's CNN and other propaganda arms in there, but that's just me.

It's hilarious that you were talking about gas and egg prices before the election, and now you're willing to die over the renaming of a body of water, something that affects you absolutely zero in your daily life. Carnies...


by Luciom k

ok so do you it's fascist to call Dublin Baile Átha Cliath, because it was , um, Dublin on the map before?

?? Baile Átha Cliath is simply the Irish language name for Dublin, like Italia is Italian for Italy. Not sure what you mean here?

Trump barring the AP from the White House over their calling it the Gulf of Mexico made me lol btw
https://news4sanantonio.com/news/nation-...


by Land O Lakes k

It's hilarious that you were talking about gas and egg prices before the election, and now you're willing to die over the renaming of a body of water, something that affects you absolutely zero in your daily life. Carnies...

if inflation goes +5% yoy Feb 2026 vs Feb 2025 you will see a lot of trump supporters (maybe not the most ardent ones here) very angry at trump, and the midterms will be a disaster for republicans.

you can bet on that (with me as well if you want).

but eggs prices and gas 3 weeks from inauguration, you don't need this low IQ bad faith take around here I think


your problem with inflation guys is that Trump might be able to create a mini recession/slowdown with tariffs , DOGE, deportations, and potential medicaid/food stamp cuts in reconcilation, and you probably know that is true, and you are terrified he could manage to bring inflation down for real, while only minimally touching his voters (who mostly aren't on medicaid/food stamps).


by Luciom k

if inflation goes +5% yoy Feb 2026 vs Feb 2025 you will see a lot of trump supporters (maybe not the most ardent ones here) very angry at trump, and the midterms will be a disaster for republicans.

you can bet on that (with me as well if you want).

but eggs prices and gas 3 weeks from inauguration, you don't need this low IQ bad faith take around here I think

Midterms would be a disaster for republicans if they were held tomorrow, so certainly in two years they will also be.

You derps believed Trump when he said gas and egg prices would drop in his first 24 hours, so don't call it a low IQ take when I hold him and you to account.


by Land O Lakes k

Midterms would be a disaster for republicans if they were held tomorrow, so certainly in two years they will also be.

You derps believed Trump when he said gas and egg prices would drop in his first 24 hours, so don't call it a low IQ take when I hold him and you to account.

I never ever wrote that trump would have been able to decrease prices in a day lol, take it to the people who did.

for eggs (avian flu in particular) I never wrote anything gvmnt can do I think, for oil/gasoline I wrote slashing regulations further and solving the Ukrainian war (even with a deal that is terrible for Europe) would have helped those prices.

not sure why you keep talking about gas though as it has the same national price it had a month ago

https://gasprices.aaa.com/

not sure why you think midterms tomorrow would be a disaster, Trump approval rates aren't bad at all right now.


by Playbig2000 k

What part of the process do they not understand, were they supposed to get the ok from Congress first?

An actual audit of a US government department would take longer than a few weeks. It would take months. What these clowns are doing is a database search for selected key words and then screaming "FRAUD!, WASTE!". This is how they fire people and then have to say "oops". Or come up with the asinine thought that a billion condoms were sent to Gaza.


by Land O Lakes k

Midterms would be a disaster for republicans if they were held tomorrow, so certainly in two years they will also be.

You derps believed Trump when he said gas and egg prices would drop in his first 24 hours, so don't call it a low IQ take when I hold him and you to account.

Ukrayne says hi !


by Luciom k

I mean institutions taking public money who are then by law forced to follow all the constitutional provisions that would apply if they were public institutions.

Anyone taking money from the state (that includes their students benefiting from state help for loans to pay their tuition) is under the 1a same as police is.

It has to do with free speech because by taking public money they become state actors

It’s great you believe private companies taking subsidies are in fact nationalizing them and government have the right to tell them what to do .
In effect losing their free speech too .


by Montrealcorp k

It’s great you believe private companies taking subsidies are in fact nationalizing them and government have the right to tell them what to do .
In effect losing their free speech too .

they become state actors for the purpose of being limited to what they can do to people.

for example if starlink or any other telecom company gets subsidies to cover an area then OFC I am against the freedom for that company to refuse service to anyone on the basis of protected classes (or speech).

they don't become nationalized.

but they lose the complete freedom they (should) have in the private sector and become chained by constitutional limitations as any other state actor.

keep in mind that is already how things are in the USA


by Luciom k

Material supports of enemies isn't a matter of free speech in the slightest. If someone is officially declared an enemy of the republic by the political bodies (like Hamas is) , supporting it in any way or form is treason.

You can talk about how the state should not consider them an enemy as much as you want but you are not allowed to "pick up their cause" in any form, that's material support for the enemy.

Hamas is at war with the USA ?
I didn’t know Israel was the 52nd state of the USA and bibi was an American governor.


by Montrealcorp k

Hamas is at war with the USA ?
I didn’t know Israel was the 52nd state of the USA and bibi was an American governor.

Hamas is a terrorist organization according to the USA government.

And Hamas is at war with an American ally, not that it matters given being officially terrorists is more than enough to call them enemies of the country.


by Luciom k

they become state actors for the purpose of being limited to what they can do to people.

for example if starlink or any other telecom company gets subsidies to cover an area then OFC I am against the freedom for that company to refuse service to anyone on the basis of protected classes (or speech).

they don't become nationalized.

but they lose the complete freedom they (should) have in the private sector and become chained by constitutional limitations as any other state actor.

keep in mind that is

Man , I knew Elon could only succeed because of him being socialized by the US with all that money given to him ….
He would never made it by himself huh .
And those maga , libertarians praise a socialist success story lol .
And praise socialist strategy like tariffs for trump .
Brilliant.


by Luciom k

Hamas is a terrorist organization according to the USA government.

And Hamas is at war with an American ally, not that it matters given being officially terrorists is more than enough to call them enemies of the country.

So no free speech for entities at war on USA allies ?
Man I’m glad republicans respected that so much with Russia huh ?


by Playbig2000 k

This isn't true at all.

This administration talks to the press every day, unlike the ice cream regime who they kept hidden away.

The AP failed to recognize or respect Trump's renaming of the gulf. I'm really surprised that he still let's CNN and other propaganda arms in there, but that's just me.

You know what free press means, insisting on the word free ?
FWIW did democrats ban fox following your reasoning ?


by Montrealcorp k

So no free speech for entities at war on USA allies ?
Man I’m glad republicans respected that so much with Russia huh ?

no material support of entities inimical to the USA according to congress/potus no.

Russia gvmnt wasn't on the American government terrorist list afaik.

Iran Cuba and Syria are afaik


by Luciom k

no material support of entities inimical to the USA according to congress/potus no.

Russia gvmnt wasn't on the American government terrorist list afaik.

Iran Cuba and Syria are afaik

We were talking about free speech , taking side openly in public spheres, what does your reply has anything to do with it ?
Diversion ?


by Montrealcorp k

We were talking about free speech , taking side openly in public spheres, what does your reply has anything to do with it ?
Diversion ?

the line can be blurred but it has to be material support.

in fact the people arrested/punished for pro-pal protests never were so because the content of their speeches, rather because they committed other illegal acts while protesting (like blocking roads illegally or occupying buildings illegaly and so on).

but all those people chanting pro Hamas strong enough, should be monitored very carefully and if any of them does any material support for the "cause" (like saying helping Hamas people get IDs to enter the USA, sending money to organizations that are Hamas fronts and so on), the whole power of the US gvmnt should be used against them.


let's say that everyone participating in a pro Hamas protest should be investigated at least as everyone who was close to capitol hill on Jan 6 2021 was


by Luciom k

let's say that everyone participating in a pro Hamas protest should be investigated at least as everyone who was close to capitol hill on Jan 6 2021 was

Doesn’t sound like free speech to me if u decide to speak u necessarily fall down under fbi scrutiny .
Sounds like the 1960s with civic rights actors .


by Luciom k

let's say that everyone participating in a pro Hamas protest should be investigated at least as everyone who was close to capitol hill on Jan 6 2021 was

For protesting? No. Protesting is your right. Your fascism is showing again.


by Montrealcorp k

Doesn’t sound like free speech to me if u decide to speak u necessarily fall down under fbi scrutiny .
Sounds like the 1960s with civic rights actors .

if you decide to speak in favor of a terrorist group you are actually a suspect of being a material supporter of that group.

plenty of actual terrorists in the 60s movements as well yes


by Gorgonian k

For protesting? No. Protesting is your right. Your fascism is showing again.

many protestors on Jan 6 were INVESTIGATED, then not indicted when not enough to indict them was found.

was the Biden admin fascist doing that?

btw protesting illegally isn't your right, and when you protest illegally in favour of a terrorist group, that's a strong suspect you are creating on yourself


by Luciom k

if you decide to speak in favor of a terrorist group you are actually a suspect of being a material supporter of that group.

plenty of actual terrorists in the 60s movements as well yes

Speaking against Israel unstoppable slaughter was necessarily be supportive of Hamas ?

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