Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

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by Dunyain k

The Palestinian Resistance is completely subsidized by Western nations, where the US is the biggest donor. By your tenor I assume you think US funding of Gaza and the West Bank should continue (and increase?) and Israel should be cut off.

Have you got facts and figures to go with that? Amounts and what type of funding etc.

I'd like to see the breakdown.


thats true. but not in the way that you think. almost all of their weaponry for decades will be from American duds. return to sender is a real thing.


by Dunyain k

Nah. I have seen enough.

I am going to just check you down as a bad faith actor.

This is the correct take


by Brian James k

Have you got facts and figures to go with that? Amounts and what type of funding etc.

I'd like to see the breakdown.

-Well, there is this.


-And on top of being the single biggest donor to UNRWA, the US also sends somewhere in the neighborhood of $600 million/yr through USAID.

--The real wild thing is that the Palestinian territories, including Gaza, were actually doing fairly well economically in period between the 1st and 2nd Infintadas, with a bright economic growth trajectory. Then the 2nd Infintada happened, Hamas gained complete control of Gaza with a coupe, and it all turned to ****. And every time things get marginally better, militants sabotage it by starting wars with Israel.

Unfortunately, for groups like PIJ and Hamas, peaceful economic growth, especially trade with Israel, is anathema; as they know that Palestine doing well as is would encourage them to make peace with Israel and move on. Which is bad for their ideology and business.

And unfortunately, due to extreme anti Israel propaganda, religious fanaticism and zero sum tribalism, the Palestinian people have always been more than willing to give militant groups veto power, and choose Jihad over peace.


by Dunyain k

-Well, there is this.

-And on top of being the single biggest donor to UNRWA, the US also sends somewhere in the neighborhood of $600 million/yr through USAID.

--The real wild thing is that the Palestinian territories, including Gaza, were actually doing fairly well economically in period between the 1st and 2nd Infintadas, with a bright economic growth trajectory. Then the 2nd Infintada happened, Hamas gained complete control of Gaza with a coupe, and it all turned to ****. And every time thi

Ok. I thought you were talking about military aid when you said they were funding the resistance. That's mostly humanitarian aid by the looks of it. Meanwhile Israel gets all the military aid it wants and the Palestinians can suck eggs in their open air prison. Very ungrateful of them to want out of that.


by mongidig k

That's one opinion, one idea.

Unfortunately according to polls it's the opinion of a majority of Israelis. What a country.


by jalfrezi k

Unfortunately according to polls it's the opinion of a majority of Israelis. What a country.

This isn't true, but to the extent that it is true (and becoming more true) even more of a reason for Hamas to be pushed aside. Radicalism and extremism just begets more radicalism and extremism.

Obviously if you are the IRGC the more strife between Palestine and Israel the better. But one can hope nations like Turkey and Qatar (who are the main state sponsors of Hamas) are re-evaluating whether their foreign policy mischevism in supporting Hamas is causing more harm than good.


by jalfrezi k

Unfortunately according to polls it's the opinion of a majority of Israelis. What a country.

I'm sure you would find similar polls in Gaza.


by Brian James k

Ok. I thought you were talking about military aid when you said they were funding the resistance. That's mostly humanitarian aid by the looks of it. Meanwhile Israel gets all the military aid it wants and the Palestinians can suck eggs in their open air prison. Very ungrateful of them to want out of that.

Well, I guess I will pencil you down as the lone Trumpkin who believes USAID is being used correctly.



There’s our boy


by jalfrezi k

They didn't shut it down and it is currently supplying mine-clearance equipment to Ukraine and is not supplying the IDF. Idiots gonna idiot.


by 57 On Red k

They didn't shut it down and it is currently supplying mine-clearance equipment to Ukraine and is not supplying the IDF. Idiots gonna idiot.

Obviously this was nothing. But I remember when they poured paint inside the building last year and actually did damage; and reading this article I admit I am disappointed to find out the protestors who did that basically got off scot free (suspended sentence).

Seems the penalties should be a little higher for such economic sabotage, especially considering they are sabotaging materials meant to aid Ukraine.


by jalfrezi k

Whoops!

These people must feel like idiots right now.


by jalfrezi k

Maybe have an understanding of what a company does before posting your hatred.


by 57 On Red k

They didn't shut it down and it is currently supplying mine-clearance equipment to Ukraine and is not supplying the IDF. Idiots gonna idiot.

There have been a lot of foot in mouth situations with this dude lately.


by mongidig k

Maybe have an understanding of what a company does before posting your hatred.

this particular company kills children for profit


by Victor k

this particular company kills children for profit

It sounds like they are doing well.


What a country! Actually not a country and probably never a country. This is what we are dealing with here folks.

In their defense the guy in the video sends a" very sincere apology to the Jewish community" according to his lawyer. Also, they say it was jus a misunderstanding. Actually, this is what antisemitism looks like. These people have so much hate that they are willing to lose their jobs and probably go to prison. Maybe they are just stupid. Did they not think this would get out to the public?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuv2GF1X...


by mongidig k

It sounds like they are doing well.

business is booming. unlimited weapons testing going on as we speak.


More news is coming out about how evil Hamas is. Poor little babies tortured and killed. The world is seeing what monsters these people are. I'll be curious if our anti Israel people in here are brave enough to talk about this atrocity.

The "Palestinian" cause is unraveling quickly. It's sickening that Israeli's have to deal with this for so long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iUxU45m...


Here is a deeper dive into "The terror in the hospital". Aaron Cohen is a former special forces officer in the IDF. He spits fire in these videos.

I'm guessing Mossad is already aware of these people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SowJx9RQ...


Israel killed them early in the war in an air strike. Hannibal Directive in action.


by Victor k

this particular company kills children for profit

They are probably gonna have to be working over time given what is going on recently. Obviously by "children" you mean 16+ child soldiers.

When the images of the dead Israeli babies are released all hell is going to break loose.


by Victor k

Israel killed them early in the war in an air strike. Hannibal Directive in action.

Why were they there?

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