Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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Well pick a side of the argument Victor. You don't get both.My comment to Micro was saying his push back was a breath of fresh air. And in a world where the Arab countries didn't attack in the 40's Victor, it's very likely those Palestinians could live anywhere today. Sadly, that's not the path the Arab nations chose back then. And we've been paying the price ever since. Accept
It's not so much that the Arabs attacked in the 40's; It's that they lost. Then they lost every other war. Now Israel is bigger.
"Biggest peaceniks in all of Israel", you say. That's one hell of a low bar! Maybe these lovely liberal Zionists shouldn't have had a music festival hundreds of feet from a concentration camp! Anyway, I know more about you about... well, just about everything, with the possible exception of how to spew out low-to-mid-tier hasbara posts, so shut the **** up with regards to "em
It was dumb to have the music festival this close to a bunch of homicidal maniacs. It should never have been approved.
It was dumb to have the music festival this close to a bunch of homicidal maniacs. It should never have been approved.
In fairness, in Hamas own words they had tricked Israel into opening up the border some and being lax on security by pretending they were interested in normalizing relations. I dont think Israel will ever make that mistake again. And Egypt is sending entire battalions to make sure no Palestinians cross through.
Until Hamas is gone and Gaza is completely demilitarized (which might actually be never) I dont think we will be hearing about any cross border raids (or really any Palestinians being allowed into Israel or Egypt* from Gaza for any reason) ever again.
*Except the ones who pay mucho dinero to be smuggled through on the Egypt side
Seems like a shrewd manoeuvre during what Israel calls a war, no?
Well, if you consider subterfuge and then starting a war with a surprise attack causing your city state to look like this with no hope for any future for the 2 million people living in it as shrewd, then sure.
Most people wouldn't call it shrewd to start wars that get your city state destroyed. But you do you.
We really should be careful in invoking the "antisemitic" card, but when someone tries to argue that Vivian Silver is not a peacenik (the kindest most devoted person to the Palestinian cause I have ever met) or to throw shade at her for choosing to live in Beeri (a deliberate choice to help people in Gaza), he is at the very least an antisemitic and probably just an awful person altogether.
I don’t doubt the kangaroo court from the joke of a country is “operating by the rule of law” because I assume the laws are different in Israel. The thing is in every other country in the world when officers hold down someone they are holding in captivity and use metal objects to tear their rectum this is called rape.
Great job “holding your soldiers accountable.”
You seem really informed about our judicial branch…
Is there one pro-pal advocate that is not completely full of himself, all the while being a complete ignorant
Israel flying war planes over the funerals in Beirut in blatant violation of the ceasefire. but we all know that rules dont apply to the Supremacist West and its proxies.
Well, if you consider subterfuge and then starting a war with a surprise attack causing your city state to look like this with no hope for any future for the 2 million people living in it as shrewd, then sure.
Breaking the UN resolution by illegally occupying Palestinian territory seems like an act of war, right?
see what I mean? violating a sovereign country's airspace to intimidate civilians at a funeral is considered Israel's right. rules dont matter.
That wasn't what you claimed. but in your world, facts don't matter.
You seem really informed about our judicial branch…
Is there one pro-pal advocate that is not completely full of himself, all the while being a complete ignorant
Ooooh burn
Let’s completely ignore the fact that someone who was in all likelihood wrongfully imprisoned was statutorily gang raped but the perpetrators are not being charged accordingly with that specific crime and will receive a joke of a 6 month sentence
No, let’s instead try to shamelessly belittle people who oppose that
Really noble of you, not that I’m surprised the IDF is ofcourse the very image of nobility
We really should be careful in invoking the "antisemitic" card, but when someone tries to argue that Vivian Silver is not a peacenik (the kindest most devoted person to the Palestinian cause I have ever met) or to throw shade at her for choosing to live in Beeri (a deliberate choice to help people in Gaza), he is at the very least an antisemitic and probably just an awful pers
Israeli Jews aren't even people in his mind. They are this abstract archetype of evil. How could any of that be true, or why would it even matter, if you literally aren't talking about a human being at all, but evil incarnate?
So please quate the relevant clause from the ceasefire agreement
Ooooh burn Let’s completely ignore the fact that someone who was in all likelihood wrongfully imprisoned was statutorily gang raped but the perpetrators are not being charged accordingly with that specific crime and will receive a joke of a 6 month sentence No, let’s instead try to shamelessly belittle people who oppose that Really noble of you, not that I’m surprised the IDF i
The problem is in your reality based on nothing but your own preferences you have decided all that actually happened. And in Blue's reality the incident was investigated in good faith, and determined it didn't happen.
And there is not a lot of daylight between the reality that exists in between your ears and the reality he lives in.
2. From 04:00 hours (IST/EET), November 27, 2024 forward, the Government of Lebanon will prevent Hezbollah and all other armed groups in the territory of Lebanon from carrying out any operations against Israel, and Israel will not carry out any offensive military operations against Lebanese targets, including civilian, military, or other state targets, in the territory of Lebanon by land, air, or sea.
3. Israel and Lebanon recognize the importance of UNSCR 1701 to achieving lasting peace and security and commit to taking steps towards its full implementation, without violation.
4. These commitments do not preclude either Israel or Lebanon from exercising their inherent right of self-defense, consistent with international law.
I really shouldnt answer bad faith questions but I am very easy to troll.
they put "offensive" in "offensive military operations" there for a reason.
But we also know Hezbollah is already down there in the no go zone Victor. So at best here you get 1 for 1. It's the worst kept secret in the region.
IDF came out and explained the fly over. I thought the message was pretty clear...And certainly no worse than dead baby parades.
Btw just to introduce a hilarious concept:
Imagine Israel returns a dead baby to the Gazans like that with a parade. Lol this thread would melt.
Ooooh burn Let’s completely ignore the fact that someone who was in all likelihood wrongfully imprisoned was statutorily gang raped but the perpetrators are not being charged accordingly with that specific crime and will receive a joke of a 6 month sentence No, let’s instead try to shamelessly belittle people who oppose that Really noble of you, not that I’m s
Nothing you are claiming is a fact.
1. He wasn’t wrongfully imprisoned, he is a Nukhba terrorist that participated in October 7 attack. Just the fact that you assume he was wrongfully imprisoned shows your bias and lack of knowledge or even decency.
2. He wasn’t gang raped, he was struck by a metal object all over his body (which is horrific), and one strike was near his rectum. The attack was after he sexually harassed a female correction officer. When they came to arrest him, he bit off a soldier, tried to grab a weapon, claimed he murdered 10 Israeli's and threatened to murder the correction officers. Not excusing the attack but let's not make him a saint. If you did what he did to an American police officer/correction officer, you would have been Xed, no questions asked.
3. Israel is prosecuting this case to its fullest, unlike your claim that we have Kangaroo courts and no real justice.
4. Im belittling you cause you are a midget, spiritually speaking. Uninformed, biased and overall terrible human being.
they put "offensive" in "offensive military operations" there for a reason.
But we also know Hezbollah is already down there in the no go zone Victor. So at best here you get 1 for 1. It's the worst kept secret in the region.
IDF came out and explained the fly over. I thought the message was pretty clear...And certainly no worse than dead baby parades.
sounds like a lot of whataboutism and you should just agree that Israel is violating the ceasefire bc rules dont matter.
