Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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remember when people called me antisemitic bc I dont want these guys coming to America? even their own mothers are scared of them according to this Israeli article. and understand that ptsd almost always gets worse with time.
I don't admire sex traffickers and rapists. I'm not even a fan of Tate's. I just happen to agree with some of what he has to say.
Per chance were you ever a Jimmy Savile fan?
you mean this guy?
remember when people called me antisemitic bc I dont want these guys coming to America? even their own mothers are scared of them according to this Israeli article. and understand that ptsd almost always gets worse with time.
If you actually believed this in good faith, then you would be arguing no refugees from war torn nations like Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Ethiopia, Sudan, Iraq should be allowed in America.
But because you are not arguing in good faith and are just an antisemite, you only believe this for Jews. All you antismemites always give the game away, because you make extremely negative generalizations that would objectively apply to lots of people in lots of situations; but somehow they only apply to Jews in your mind.
What on earth are you talking about? Nobody on the left supports Qatar. They host the biggest US air force base in the middle east. They are very much a part of the Imperial class.
Well, Qatar is the main sponsor of Hamas. So clearly Hamas supports Qatar and is a collaborator of the Imperial class. At least this would be the case if you were arguing in good faith.
On the Qatar subject, the truly wild thing about Qatar's influence peddling and how completely dominant it is in Western society, is that no one will even talk about it. Politicians like AOC will rant about AIPAC for hours on end, but on the subject of Qatar it is just silence.
The embedded picture is a popularity poll done some mainstream outlet (I forget which one) of Palestinian perceptions after 10/7, and the most wild thing about it is that Qatar wasn't even included, despite being the mains sponsor of Hamas and the state sponsor of the most popular and influential Arab media outlet in the world. Just a veil of silence. How are Iran, Turkey and Egypt on this list but not Qatar? It is actually wild.
It really seems like for anyone working in Western media or govt, the first rule of Qatar is you dont talk about Qatar.
That's him. He had the British people fooled since the 50's. The British royalty loved him. Margaret Thatcher loved him. He had millions of fans who had no idea he was a pedo. Actually, I have to think a lot of people did know. In fact, he joked about it quite often. The British likes their creeps for some reason.
If this happened in the US this creep would have been called out many years before he was able to inflict the damage he did. I saw the Netflix documentary on him. You can see why the UK has had and continues to have issues.
I love the terrified look on the faces of these Hezbollah terrorists when the Israeli F-16's savagely fly over. They were chanting so happily "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" until their day was ruined. Israel gave them a friendly warning that they control the skies.
Could you imagine anywhere else in the world but the MENA where a major political party would hold a giant rally/funeral and chant death to foreign countries at the rally? It really is wild just how culturally backward and politically dysfunctional this part of the world is. For all its flaws, Israel really is a rare diamond in a giant pile of coal.
Could you imagine anywhere else in the world but the MENA where a major political party would hold a giant rally/funeral and chant death to foreign countries at the rally? It really is wild just how culturally backward and politically dysfunctional this part of the world is. For all its flaws, Israel really is a rare diamond in a giant pile of coal.
Every nation has flaws. It's the hatred that stunts the growth of many Middle Eastern nations. Israel is the one bright light in the Middle East. This is why the US continues it's support.
Qatar literally used slave labor to build numerous soccer stadiums for some stupid soccer tournament, with uncounted slaves buried in the bones of the stadium. And then they completely bought off the entire world, including the entire progressive left. Who knew exactly what happened, but gave no shits because they are completely fake and zero principle antisemites. The progr
I'm sorry but if I remember correctly they went back on their word and announced there would be no alcohol allowed at the world cup just weeks before the 1st game. Unforgivable. Never again.
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it doesnt work that way. you may think its some clever loophole but it just shows once again the deeply ingrained bad faith and Supremacist ideals of Westerners.
If you actually believed this in good faith, then you would be arguing no refugees from war torn nations like Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Ethiopia, Sudan, Iraq should be allowed in America.But because you are not arguing in good faith and are just an antisemite, you only believe this for Jews. All you antismemites always give the game away, because you make extremely negative g
I'm just stoked that we can call Victor the A word again. Felt like we were being trolled there for a while by denying this simple truth.
Feels like a “do not compare other genocides to this one” moment.
That’s a bit of a reach.
May I remind you that the UN has repeatedly over a period of many decades condemned Israel for its continued expansion of settlements which illegally infringe on Palestinian land and freedom. That Israel treats those condemnations and the human rights of Palestinians with impunity. That Gallant & Netenyahu were issued arrest warrants for publicly calling for and carrying out the genocide. That Israeli twitter and tiktok is rampant with anti-Arab racism. That some 1200 people including sitting members of the Knesset rioted when members of the IDF were arrested for statutorily raping a prisoner, and people are on record saying that the IDF should have the right to abuse, even sexually, Palestinian prisoners.
Mmmm, not really getting a diamond in the rough kinda vibe, but you go ahead and tell yourself whatever it is that makes you okay with Israel’s continued breach of humanitarian law.
I think a piece of **** wrapped in a fancy handkerchief is more fitting.
Have you ever undertaken the mental exercise of "UN resolutions vs Israel" vs "UN resolutions vs the rest of the world"?
Knowing the rest of the world contains places like Iran, North Korea, Syria, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Yemen, South Sudan, Somalia etc etc...
What you'll find when you do that exercise, is that the UN is basically run by Victor. Give or take.
And btw according to pretty much all the precedent in human history, Israel winning all those wars means it could have it ALL. It does not. It has given most of it back. Food for thought.
This is why you should definitely apply to the UN. It's also why you're the A word 😀
the UN supports the status quo for the West and therefore Israel. it really just shows how out of touch you are to think that I would support such an impotent structure for change or that my values would align with the UN at all.
The UN is completely corrupt and broken and should not be looked to by anyone for any moral authority. As I said before, most people of the world are zero sum and tribal. And by making the UN a democracy of mostly zero sum and tribal nations; all that has done is create a dysfunctional, corrupt, tribal institution.
Despite all this I understand the argument for the US remaining in the UN (even in a highly corrupt organization you can do more good from the inside than the outside), but I also am starting to think it has passed a threshold and is doing more harm than good and we should leave the UN and they can move the headquarters to Beijing or Moscow.
That's unfortunate. I prefer friends of baby murderers to not in fact "have a soft spot" for me. **** you.
Fewer appeals to emotionally charged imagery and more content please
The claim that the fighter jets flying over the funeral was done to gather intelligence is epically dishonest.
The UN is completely corrupt and broken and should not be looked to by anyone for any moral authority. As I said before, most people of the world are zero sum and tribal. And by making the UN a democracy of mostly zero sum and tribal nations; all that has done is create a dysfunctional, corrupt, tribal institution.Despite all this I understand the argument for the US remainin
The UN has always done more harm than good but without the americans vetoing stuff, it would do even more harm , so i think it's fine they stay in
Have you ever undertaken the mental exercise of "UN resolutions vs Israel" vs "UN resolutions vs the rest of the world"?Knowing the rest of the world contains places like Iran, North Korea, Syria, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Yemen, South Sudan, Somalia etc etc...What you'll find when you do that exercise, is that the UN is basically run by Victor. Give or take.And btw according t
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Imagine confining people to a large open air prison and stealing their land, bombing them at will and then complaining when that beastly anti-Semitic organisation the UN passes resolutions against you. It's intolerable!
