Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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by mongidig k

They were wrong there was no convincing. They blocked Jewish students from classes. They illegally occupied the campus when they were told they couldn't. They started a riot in many situations.

Good for Trump. 400 million saved. Now I know the campuses will beg Trump for forgiveness and probably expel some "Palestinians" to show good faith. Hopefully he doesn't cave but he probably will.

Could not be more culty.



by Victor k

is Blue around for a translate? just want to make sure that I got this right. seems that this mainstream Zionist reporter is saying he knows snipers who shot hundreds of people including children.

I don't speak/read Hebrew but your translation is incorrect. It's child soldiers, not children. Right?


could i get an update on the suicide bombing campaign which hamas announced some months ago. havent heard much about it

are they strugging to convince people to suicide themselves or are they being foiled by israeli security measures?


by 5 south k

I don't speak/read Hebrew but your translation is incorrect. It's child soldiers, not children. Right?

Im here. what part do you want me to translate?


by 5 south k

I don't speak/read Hebrew but your translation is incorrect. It's child soldiers, not children. Right?

yes. probably just like the 10 year old boy that mowed down people with a machine gun according to that Israeli women.


by BOIDS k

could i get an update on the suicide bombing campaign which hamas announced some months ago. havent heard much about it

are they strugging to convince people to suicide themselves or are they being foiled by israeli security measures?

Mostly A. they planted a few bombs on buses, but it wasn’t a suicide mission. There were a few suicides by cop attacks, but mostly from mentally ill people.

We are ofc operating in the west bank and that has an impact on their capabilities.


"operating"


Repost something from X, you are clearly very good at that


by BOIDS k

could i get an update on the suicide bombing campaign which hamas announced some months ago. havent heard much about it

are they strugging to convince people to suicide themselves or are they being foiled by israeli security measures?

I get that the concept of a ceasefire is hard for you to understand, but unlike Israel, Hamas ceases "operations" when they sign a deal.


by IMBLUEtheONE k

Repost something from X, you are clearly very good at that

Post some more euphemisms for genocide, you are clearly very good at genocide denial.


by Victor k

I get that the concept of a ceasefire is hard for you to understand, but unlike Israel, Hamas ceases "operations" when they sign a deal.

This is the biggest LOL stupid post I have ever...

Dude, what are you on?


by jalfrezi k

Post some more euphemisms for genocide, you are clearly very good at genocide denial.

As I explained many times. I could care less about the definitions of the conflict. I care about realpolitik, about real life outcomes.

You won the semantics debate against me, before it even started. As I stated, for you this is a moral conundrum, a practice in virtue-signaling.

For me its life and death


by Victor k

I get that the concept of a ceasefire is hard for you to understand, but unlike Israel, Hamas ceases "operations" when they sign a deal.


point to the part where hamas ceased operations. we handing out nobel peace prizes for only firing one rocket a month in 2016?


by IMBLUEtheONE k

As I explained many times. I could care less about the definitions of the conflict. I care about realpolitik, about real life outcomes.

You won the semantics debate against me, before it even started. As I stated, for you this is a moral conundrum, a practice in virtue-signaling.

For me its life and death

right ok. where have we heard talk like this before?


by BOIDS k

point to the part where hamas ceased operations. we handing out nobel peace prizes for only firing one rocket a month in 2016?

Vic...


by IMBLUEtheONE k

As I explained many times. I could care less about the definitions of the conflict. I care about realpolitik, about real life outcomes.

You won the semantics debate against me, before it even started. As I stated, for you this is a moral conundrum, a practice in virtue-signaling.

For me its life and death

Of course. You're paid by the Israeli state to murder Palestinians under the pretext of "making Israel safe" for Israelis.


by jalfrezi k

Of course. You're paid by the Israeli state to murder Palestinians under the pretext of "making Israel safe" for Israelis.

Terrible assertion again. You are beating Vic in the Dumb race.

Just to be clear – I have a law office. I make a fair living (to say the least)
For my reserve duty, I make less than a quarter of my normal income.

Worst, I lose clients that have urgent matters, and my office (my partner/ employees) can't accommodate them while Im gone. I volunteer to reserve duty as im over age.

In closing, I lost a ton of money for every day I enlisted.


by IMBLUEtheONE k

Vic...

how about Jan 2025?

we know that Israel has never stopped firing or "operating" bc you feel that rules dont apply to you. eventually they will fire back, as is their moral and legal right.


by Victor k

I get that the concept of a ceasefire is hard for you to understand, but unlike Israel, Hamas ceases "operations" when they sign a deal.

that was your claim.

you were proved wrong.

you deflect.

VICCCCC


by IMBLUEtheONE k

Terrible assertion again. You are beating Vic in the Dumb race.

Just to be clear – I have a law office. I make a fair living (to say the least)
For my reserve duty, I make less than a quarter of my normal income.

Worst, I lose clients that have urgent matters, and my office (my partner/ employees) can't accommodate them while Im gone. I volunteer to reserve duty as im over age.

In closing, I lost a ton of money for every day I enlisted.

None of that contradicts what I wrote. I'm surprised anyone engages your legal services if this is the best you can do.


no I wasnt. Hamas has abided by the Jan 2025 ceasefire. Israel has not.

I get that you feel that it is the right of Israel to murder, steal, and plunder so I dont think we will ever agree on this bc words have different meaning to you.


by IMBLUEtheONE k

Repost something from X, you are clearly very good at that

Here you go

Israel is a democracy, apparently. Or maybe the N is silent.

Is it because of life and death that your fascist overlords jail 12 year old children for drawing Palestinian flags?


by DoyleBrunsonFan k

Lol the protestors turned reasonable people away from the Free Palestine movement and helped get Trump elected. Are we sure they aren’t mossad plants? The protestors have done much more for Israel than for the Gazans.

Sure, that's why they're being suppressed.


by gotwoot k

Here you go

Israel is a democracy, apparently. Or maybe the N is silent.

Is it because of life and death that your fascist overlords jail 12 year old children for drawing Palestinian flags?

Any credible sources for the claim?

Looking through court briefings, I found no such case and/or name.

Asked a lawyer (Arab) friend who represents in such matters, he also never heard of this.

Just to be clear, im not arguing it is fake news, just want to make sure first


by IMBLUEtheONE k

Any credible sources for the claim?

Looking through court briefings, I found no such case and/or name.

Asked a lawyer (Arab) friend who represents in such matters, he also never heard of this.

Just to be clear, im not arguing it is fake news, just want to make sure first

For people like Gotwoot, Jalfrezi and Victor it is completely irrelevant whether it is true or not. They are going to latch onto any "proof" that reinforces their pre-existing worldview, and it literally doesn't matter if it was true or not. If the last 10 social media links posted by Victor, Jalfrezi, et al were proven to be definitively made up, it wouldn't change a thing.

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