President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
People who think Trump hasn't lost support are spending too much time on the internet and not enough time talking to real humans who were actual Trumpers.
If there weren't walls in the way, I could throw a rock and hit about a dozen people right this second who would now like Trump to **** off to obscurity, despite probably voting for him three times. That's a sizeable chunk of the total potential rock-to-the-noggin recipients.
He's going to get his Nobel Peace Prize after all.
He did solve the Russia Ukraine conflict in a day. Oh no wait, he didn't.
Went to burger king last year and two meals (1 burger, 1 drink, 1 fry each) was over $20. I know that isn't McDonalds, but it is comparable. Meanwhile a simple sit-down restaurant is about the same price (perkins/applebees/village inn etc.). Fast food places are about the same price range as those other restaurants when it used to be much cheaper.
Also a big box of cereal is like $7 now which I found astounding this last time I bought some cereal. Same thing with basically everything else. I recall a 12-pack of pop/soda being ~$4, now a 12-pack of coca-cola not on sale is literally twice that--$8.
Maybe I'm just old now (32).
Eat yourself fitter.
smh
The business channel stays on all day every day in my house. Even the most diehard trump supporters amongst the talking heads think this is incredibly stupid.
I think one of the Dow 36000 guys is on board with Trumponomics. Crazy how terrible of a track record you can have and still be a conservative advisor.
there's a lot of pro tariff stuff out there and a lot of academic research showing their value
but like most complex topics, when framed correctly, any number of sides can be advocated as being the best - we tend to gravitate to the free market side of things because that's the direction we've gone in as a country so those are the ones who get promoted, they are the ones teaching the next generation etc
same reason why most americans will dismiss socialism out of hand while also lamenting the cost
As you know I live in a tariff country. Maybe they don't call them "tariffs" but the duty on imported stuff is crazy. Luckily we have a manufacturing class working at slave wages so a lot of inferior products are made domestically and it gets the job done. It's a big enough economy that pretty much every car manufacturer has built plants here to access the domestic market but as the cost of living goes up and people don't want to live like peasants anymore some cracks are starting to show. A strong authoritarian govt is keeping any real change at bay but it's on it's way down. The glaring problem I see with Trump's plan is the US doesn't have that cheap manufacturing labor. The only pro tariff argument I've seen without looking for it was Bannon on Newsome's podcast and he claims a lot of Trump's plan hinges on cheap energy, a la drill baby drill but I don't see the incentive for the oil companies to flood the market with oil to the point they could be operating at a loss.
Anyways, maybe Dun will post the pro tariff argument.
Wouldn't it be good if the democrats formulated some policies to go through it. Soemhow I suspect they wont and then even if they win for a bit it wont change anything.
You know, some of this is this notion from the right that everything is horrible under the dems when it just isn't or wasn't. Since that entire line of thinking was false, as is most everything the right comes up with, then they couldn't really fix it. But they sure can **** it up.
Tons is horrible under the dems. The only relevence of the right to taht pov is that the dems are right wing.
You know, some of this is this notion from the right that everything is horrible under the dems when it just isn't or wasn't. Since that entire line of thinking was false, as is most everything the right comes up with, then they couldn't really fix it. But they sure can **** it up.
If Biden had completely stopped illegal immigration (same border policy trump is enacting right now), Harris would be president.
If Dems had passed a much more moderate second surplus as COVID relief, inflation would have been far lower and possibly Harris would be president.
If Dems had stopped 3-4 years ago pandering to racial and gender extremists on the radical fringe of the left Harris would probably have won 35 states and the presidency.
Went to burger king last year and two meals (1 burger, 1 drink, 1 fry each) was over $20. I know that isn't McDonalds, but it is comparable. Meanwhile a simple sit-down restaurant is about the same price (perkins/applebees/village inn etc.). Fast food places are about the same price range as those other restaurants when it used to be much cheaper.
Also a big box of cereal is like $7 now which I found astounding this last time I bought some cereal. Same thing with basically everything else. I reca
You shouldn't eat any of the listed food.
What's the price of asparagus? Green onion? Olive oil? Real (salt-flour only) bread? Real (no hormones, grass fed) beef? Real (no hormones, grass fed) lamb? Blue cheese? Fresh (never frozen) crab? Shrimps? Clams? Oysters?
I mean I understand that stuff has increased as well but Coke? Why are you even buying it to begin with? Fast food? Why are you going there?
Costco has limited options but acceptable cereal prices.
I used to be able to routinely get 12-packs of soda at a rate of 4 for $10, and then they went to 3 for $11 as the standard discount, but within the last 2 years here in Milwaukee the base price went from $6.99 to $10.99 each. This is ludicrous.
As someone with a diet coke problem similar to Trump's, I simply refuse to buy it unless it's on a deep discount. They will sometimes run Buy 2 Get 3 Free deals and I'll stock up, but if those stop entirely, I'm back to strictly water. MAHA
If the goal was to automate all the workers out of the production chain and then raise prices such that those former workers cannot justify purchasing the product, then we're on the right track.
If ribeye gets much beyond $15/lb, I'll just go on a hunger strike. What the hell am I gonna eat? Vegetables? **** that noise.
Though, anyone buying fast food from a chain in 2025 has too much money and probably needs a tax increase. Anyone having fast food delivered from a chain restaurant in 2025 is either financially ******ed, or rich enough to light their cigars with $100 bills. "It's one banana, Michael. What could it cost, ten dollars?"
Fat cats ITT.
And now you see why trump made 7 bankruptcies .
His a Genius .
Lap it up lap it up.
You shouldn't eat any of the listed food.
What's the price of asparagus? Green onion? Olive oil? Real (salt-flour only) bread? Real (no hormones, grass fed) beef? Real (no hormones, grass fed) lamb? Blue cheese? Fresh (never frozen) crab? Shrimps? Clams? Oysters?
I mean I understand that stuff has increased as well but Coke? Why are you even buying it to begin with? Fast food? Why are you going there?
Fully agree with the sentiment that that **** is bad, but the answer to your questions regarding other products is not going to make you feel any better. That ****'s expensive.
If Trump does no tax on first $150k and tariffs create increased prices, its essentially swapping a graduated income tax structure (for most people) for a flat consumption tax. This really should incentivize saving/investing, as consuming is costly.
Lower consumption = lower gdp/lower employment/lower inflation/lower stonks.
how exactly do you think companies are going to grow without people consuming. please, think quickly
In Donny's defense, it was also Biden's fault he bankrupted a bunch of casinos. Damn you sleepy Joe.
Exactly... and you know why they called him sleepy... because you could sleep at night and not worry about all the chaos because an actual adult was in charge.
One thing not talked about w/ this Trump tariff deal is... they excluded Russia from tariffs. You know... our closest trading ally.... or soon to be.
So everyone has been told for the last few months that a reciprocal tariff is calculated like this.
If India has an average tariff on American goods of 17%, then the US would implement a reciprocal 17% tariff on all imported goods from India.
But somewhere during a 24 hour period , a reciprocal tariff turned into a trade deficit tax. You take trade deficits multiplied by .5 to get a percentage that all countries would pay, even Ukraine, but not Russia. And something about penguins too.
And instead of calling it a deficit tax Trump is calling it a reciprocal tariff, which according to Trump is not what it is.
So Trump didn't do what he said he was going to do, but claims he did. Of course that is nothing new.
And Trump thinks the US will come out ahead, even though he set up a prefect framework for all the countries that got hit with tariffs to try and work on trade agreements with each other, because the US has become an unpredictable and unreliable trading partner, and who wants to work with a country that is moving the goal posts every day.
Oh, and he just started a recession, and has no trade allies. None.
You shouldn't eat any of the listed food.
What's the price of asparagus? Green onion? Olive oil? Real (salt-flour only) bread? Real (no hormones, grass fed) beef? Real (no hormones, grass fed) lamb? Blue cheese? Fresh (never frozen) crab? Shrimps? Clams? Oysters?
I mean I understand that stuff has increased as well but Coke? Why are you even buying it to begin with? Fast food? Why are you going there?
Lol and when the stock market goes down under Trump we can ask why they want wealth anyway for blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.
Fully agree with the sentiment that that **** is bad, but the answer to your questions regarding other products is not going to make you feel any better. That ****'s expensive.
if on a budget you'll go broccoli lentils peas rice whatever you can afford that is real food. eggs (that are coming down to earth lately) and ground meat, pork chops, eggplants, I mean real food?
pasta, onion soup with some bacon,
rotisserie chicken (yeah this is full of artifical chemicals, if you can find organic that's better, otherwise eat only occasionally), potatoes in 1001 ways like eastern Europeans do and poor Germans and danish and Irish did, a ton of omelettes (it's 2 bucks at home 15 outside to make a good 3-4 eggs omelette with flavour) , kefir/yogurt/feta/ricotta , lowly priced "garbage" seafood you can make broths with (you can work with the heads and they give it for free or close to it in some places) and so on and on
