President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by Inso0 k

RIP brokerage account

We're no longer having fun. I want off Mr. Trump's Wild Ride.

Unfortunately, when the realization starts to spread, it tends to get worse.


Front page of Fox News


Keep them poor, keep them stupid, keep them uninformed, keep them distracted and make sure to always focus their anger on red meat bullshit


by StoppedRainingMen k

Front page of Fox News

Keep them poor, keep them stupid, keep them uninformed, keep them distracted and make sure to always focus their anger on red meat bullshit

And fat.


by Inso0 k

RIP brokerage account

We're no longer having fun. I want off Mr. Trump's Wild Ride.

What 'bout there's going to be a little short-term pain in making America 1955 again?


by tame_deuces k

You seem to misunderstand me. I have no interest in what you guys were discussing.

I just pointed out posting AI-derived material and meeting criticism off the source material by expecting others to fact-check them for you is poor form. Using your journalist background to double down on that makes things worse, not better.

AI frequently just makes **** up, even the leading models. As a single source it is garbage both for political debate and journalism like.

yes i'm aware, as explained, if i was not well versed in this matter beforehand i would not have used it, it was instead a simple and convenient way to lay out the general scope of things in a process that took seconds and it indeed spit out data that jived with my outdated domain expertise on this matter

your response was an extremely patronizing post congratulating me for asking it objectively because you were surprised i was capable of that and now your arrogance leads you to believe i somehow didn't understand you original nonsense - you tend to treat your peers like you are their chaperone on the short bus and you'd be much more pleasant to interact with if you didn't act so smugly superior all the time

you're not an idiot, maybe one day you'll possibly realize others aren't always idiots either, you can do better


by Luciom k

For people in business but with no clue about macro, it's typical to get stuck in what explained economic reality around you from your 20s to your 40s

This is correct for most people.


by microbet k

It's a huge strategic mistake in the argument about Trump's economic actions to just let people argue about tariffs in the abstract. These actions now executed as they have been are so transparently harmful and idiotic, you have to be some combination of brain dead, complete cult member, or troll to be either defending them or engaging in the misdirection about how sometimes tariffs might be good.

Also this. We aren't having talking about tariffs in the abstract. We are talking about Trump's implementation of these specific tariffs.


It is almost as though the country is being run by someone that has declared bankruptcy six times. Oh wait.


by Rococo k

Also this. We aren't having talking about tariffs in the abstract. We are talking about Trump's implementation of these specific tariffs.

but people are generally talking about tariffs in the abstract - not in the extreme bungling of executing them which is the actual problem


The bankruptcy angle is used as an attack by people who don't really understand corporate bankruptcy laws.

Trump is and has always been willing to walk directly up to any lines and maybe even get some toes across them. Bankruptcy is a tool to be wielded. If you can deal with the consequences, it can be quite effective.

Scummy, but effective.


by Inso0 k

The bankruptcy angle is used as an attack by people who don't really understand corporate bankruptcy laws.

Trump is and has always been willing to walk directly up to any lines and maybe even get some toes across them. Bankruptcy is a tool to be wielded. If you can deal with the consequences, it can be quite effective.

Scummy, but effective.

Maybe... but it's still a good angle to highlight he's not good at business as a whole, he's just good at exploiting the court system. He may be the most litigious "billionaire" of all time.

Mark Cuban: 0 bankruptcies - and this guy has started a sht ton of businesses.

Warren Buffet, Jeff Bezos, Oprah, Howard Shultz, Bloomberg... a lot of truly successful billionaires that are good at business, have never filed bankruptcy even once.

Mark Cuban once made a really good point about Trump. If Trump is so good at business, where are the people he's mentored? There are none... except I guess if you watch reality TV.


Isn't it funny at all to anyone, that Trump just turned America into another aggrieved party against the world? Poor, poor, poor America... everyone is always taking advantage of them in a free market system. America just can't seem to get ahead, with everyone conspiring against them!

Kinda like the straight, white, male (and Christian) victimhood that right-wing media constantly creates 24/7 across their networks.

It's so incredibly nonsensical. Yet somehow, a lot of people are falling for it.


by Inso0 k

The bankruptcy angle is used as an attack by people who don't really understand corporate bankruptcy laws.

Trump is and has always been willing to walk directly up to any lines and maybe even get some toes across them. Bankruptcy is a tool to be wielded. If you can deal with the consequences, it can be quite effective.

Scummy, but effective.

He bankrupted casinos. Not just any startup. God damn casinos in Atlantic city.


Yeah, exactly, you're doing the thing.

It's far more complicated than "Trump managed to bankrupt CASINOS!"

He financed those ventures with high interest bonds that would've eaten even a thriving casino alive. It's far more likely that the writing was on the wall from the very start. Trump extracted a lot of value out of those businesses before they declared "bankruptcy" and made investors foot the bill.

It's an example of scummy behavior moreso than not knowing how casinos work.

Trump isn't quite Chaotic Evil, but Chaotic Neutral or Neutral Evil at worst.

How he keeps getting away with his shenanigans is the real story behind Trump. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, something something can't get fooled again. Fool me 78 times, and clearly I'm the idiot.


by Amywinehouse k

He bankrupted casinos. Not just any startup. God damn casinos in Atlantic city.

Well, that takes talent. Of a weird inverse kind, admittedly. Now watch him bankrupt the richest nation in the history of the world.


by Inso0 k

Fool me 78 times, and clearly I'm the idiot.

Lemme guess... you're on time 77?


by Inso0 k

Yeah, exactly, you're doing the thing.

It's far more complicated than "Trump managed to bankrupt CASINOS!"

He financed those ventures with high interest bonds that would've eaten even a thriving casino alive. It's far more likely that the writing was on the wall from the very start. Trump extracted a lot of value out of those businesses before they declared "bankruptcy" and made investors foot the bill.

It's an example of scummy behavior moreso than not knowing how casinos work.

Trump isn't quite

I agree there are better ways to show his incompetence, and people do probably over use it, and don't understand the laws.

However.... .... .... he did bankrupt a casino, even though he was laundering money through it... laundered money is 100% profit.

And he was stopped. US banks wouldn't lend to him anymore. That's why he had to enlist more people w/ rubles.


by Inso0 k

How he keeps getting away with his shenanigans is the real story behind Trump. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, something something can't get fooled again. Fool me 78 times, and clearly I'm the idiot.

His business model can basically be summed up by 'bully, burn bridges, and never admit you're wrong'.



by microbet k

ICE raided a roofing company in Washington State and kidnapped 37 roofers.

I hope everyone who voted for Trump has a roof leak and no one will fix it.

Not many Trump voters in Washington State. That was his 4d chess way of owning the wet weather libs.


What Trump cucks think manufacturing in the US in 2030 will look like:


What manufacturing in 2030 in reality will look like:



I'm now dumber for having watched that.


Trump doesn't even know how to play checkers. I'm not sure how anyone hasn't yet figured out the guy is dumb as a brick.


by campfirewest k

I'm now dumber for having watched that.

Whoever puts that out... is probably being funded in rubles.

That's some of the worst propaganda I've heard in a while... and I've unfortunately, heard and read a lot lately.


by FreakDaddy k

However.... .... .... he did bankrupt a casino, even though he was laundering money through it... laundered money is 100% profit.

He lit a fuse when the first parking garage foundation was laid. Eventually that fuse reached the charge. It was inevitable.

I know I shouldn't even hint at defending his Atlantic City behavior, but operating a casino isn't a guarantee that you'll simply print money unless you have exclusive rights to operate casinos in that viable market. Maybe he even thought it would work anyway. But as thethethe said, he's fine with a churn and burn strategy, too. Whatever, onward to the next scheme with the piles of cash he extracted.

Donald Trump only has one setting. I didn't fully understand that until about 3 weeks into his first term, and naively hoped we'd have seen the last of him by the end of that first shitshow. I figured the USA is more durable than one crazy person in a figurehead position, but now that we enter the Great Trade Wars, I'm much more concerned with just how powerful this guy is.

The adults in the room I've hoped would manifest after his first term turned out to be a figment of my imagination. Oops. I didn't vote for him in 20 or 24, but that doesn't make me any less uncomfortable with this new reality we find ourselves in.

I sit here thinking, "Surely NOW someone with influence is going to clip this guy's wings now that we've lit the economy on fire" so maybe this is #78 as gymbro says.

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