RFK - Make America Healthy? again?

no (from n=1 close relative)

No, I just explained the travel restrictions on US citizens

Once again, The Colonel has no idea what goes on in the US.

to be fair its a tricky subject to google. you almost had to be there

man you said "you had to be vaccinated".

there was no approved vaccine while trump was president.

tell me exactly when did trump mandated vaccination to travel in or outside of the USA as cordie claimed? or negative tests?

so a relative who was an American citizen was barred from leaving the USA or entering the USA because of trump installed COVID restrictions?

you sure?

it was Biden who introduced the negative test mandate almost immediately after he became acting president.

anyone capable of admitting cordie was utterly wrong?

Okay, I got the timing a little wrong but ....

Isn't accurate and I don't know what else to say to you

Ok so you thought restrictions introduced by Biden were introduced by Trump.

Now you realized those restrictions weren't in place in 2020 under Trump.

So which restrictions exactly applied to Americans wanting to exit or entering the country, in 2020? You said my claim none did was inaccurate, so tell me

The State department issued a level 4 travel advisory instructing citizens not to travel and to return home if abroad directly stating that US citizens could be stranded

This was in the middle of a local lockdown

And many countries had their own travel restrictions

So its not as simple as saying "Trump didn't issue specific travel bans so American citizens were free to come and go as they please"

There were many instances of stranded US Citizens begging the US government to save them

Lol omg.

So the claim I was countering by the other poster was that trump LOCKED DOWN THE COUNTRY.

I denied the claim domestically, as POTUS has no lockdown power of schools, churches gyms theaters and so on.

The poster said that closing the border was a lockdown.

I denied that was a lockdown because Americans were free to leave and come back (ON THE AMERICAN SIDE OFC).

Now your claim is that since travel was often practically hard/impeded by OTHER REASONS in 2020, then... Then what?

Then it was hard to travel for reasons that had nothing to do with Trump removing that freedom from Americans.

So the country was NOT locked down by Trump, neither domestically nor its borders (for Americans), and any claim otherwise is utterly indefensible.

Any freedom limitation was caused either by local or state governments, or by foreign governments. Not by the trump administration (for Americans).

Now you can claim that was a mistake . Doesn't matter, the other poster was lying through his teeth by claiming a complete falsehood, and you came in his defense for who knows what reason.

Trump did NOT lockdown Americans.

Americans got stranded by other countries and that is your claim Trump removed their freedom?????

Hey **** nuts, Trump himself said he controlled the lock down

Its so annoying arguing with you

(mostly kidding, but you have to admit the forum would be bliss if everyone blocked and ignored that idiot)

Closing the border is locking down the country.

Sorry Folks--Country's Closed!

Luci being a complete moron as usual lol

Borders weren't closed for americans under trump.

Why do you keep lying when even cordie admitted they weren't close for americans by trump?

So trump claims credit for something that he cannot and didn't do, and lies as usual, and for you that becomes the source that you were right?

which decision of the president reopened states in the summer of 2020? potus has no ****ing power to close or re-open anything other than federal buildings / access to federal parks

This is the kind of attention to detail (and flat out lying) that we so need from the department in charge of our health!

https://www.notus.org/health-science/make-america-healthy-again-report-citation-errors

NOTUS

The MAHA Report Cites Studies That Don’t Exist

The MAHA Report Cites Studies That Don’t Exist

The Trump administration’s “Make America Healthy Again” report misinterprets some studies and cites others that don’t exist, according to the listed authors.

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says his “Make America Healthy Again” Commission report harnesses “gold-standard” science, citing more than 500 studies and other sources to back up its claims. Those citations, though, are rife with errors, from broken links to misstated conclusions.

Seven of the cited sources don’t appear to exist at all.

Epidemiologist Katherine Keyes is listed in the MAHA report as the first author of a study on anxiety in adolescents. When NOTUS reached out to her this week, she was surprised to hear of the citation. She does study mental health and substance use, she said. But she didn’t write the paper listed.

...

But did you guys hear they are going to take some chemical out of skittles? MAHA baby

So? The border was still closed.

I went to the frigging coffee shop every single day of lockdown too lol What do you think was happening here we were all locked in our houses and nothing was open?

You don't get it. Shutting the country down wasn't Trump's fault. He would never have done such a thing even though he said he was going to and took credit for doing it.

Superspreader.

It's called drive-thru bozo. They were still open ffs.