[ClubWPTGold] Unofficial Thread
time for a thread imo
There is a near universal correlation between RB (or % of RB) offered and the game quality.Stars got rid of SNE? Games got softer. Stars had 35% RB and brought it down to 3% or whatever? Games got way softer. Your comments about Global Poker are spot on as well, I'm confident that in the last 6 months or so that the typical middle of the road 500nl reg had an effectively 0 pre
Not only do recs and whales not want to play with those types but the thing a lot of regs that complain and want rakeback donβt realize is they too do not want to play with other 17/15 rb grinders. Itβs just a slippery slope of bad games leading to table hopping excessively, games breaking and sites dying.
Another thing thatβs a positive for no rb and stricter table limits is it forces everyone to play stakes that are actually worthwhile. If you can only play 2-4 tables your not gonna waste them playing like .25/.50 cent if your a pro or even a serious rec wanting to play for real moneyβ¦it makes the whole sites ecosystem play bigger and bigger games on the site actually run and sustain.
I donβt think sites where pros can make a living off rakeback and 8-12 tabling micros is healthy at all for site longevity.
Rakeback is bad, promos and freerolls for the recs like they've been doing is good. I couldn't care less if I get rewards if I'm getting punted to every day. It would be nice to get some incentives for starting tables and MTTs, though. They shouldn't totally get rid of rewards for pros, but they should definitely never allow rewards to be how you make a living.
Canada when?
Rakeback is bad, promos and freerolls for the recs like they've been doing is good. I couldn't care less if I get rewards if I'm getting punted to every day. It would be nice to get some incentives for starting tables and MTTs, though. They shouldn't totally get rid of rewards for pros, but they should definitely never allow rewards to be how you make a living.
Global still dominates the promo arena IMO. They just give away money everyday to you. Tons of promos too. I am finding that gold is just to focused on feeder tourneys to their 5-10 big tournaments a week. Which is fine but I definitely want to actually play some lower tier tournaments for wins, not just seats. The MMT climate is basically a desert. They gave me $2 for joining I think. Their 750 nightly freeroll is so easy to cash that I ran that up and did the $2 turbo nightly. Since then I do a few tournaments a week but the schedule conflicts with mine. I think I'm up to $40 on Gold right now with only 1 final table and like 2-3 cashes a week. I can't stand the no note taking on the site though. The population is so low there, its such an easy freebie for rec players. The table organization coding is awful too. I jump and jump and jump between tables.
If the pivot to a training based site sells legally then I will have to move to Gold as sweeps sites seem to be on the chopping block. I love the look of Gold too. I guess they don't want to spread themselves to thin on the tournament front like Global has, most of their guaranteed dailies don't usually get there, which is a really bad sign. I'm just kind of sitting on the fence right now as a lock-out US player. I don't really have many options besides Gold and a few others.
Rakeback is bad, promos and freerolls for the recs like they've been doing is good. I couldn't care less if I get rewards if I'm getting punted to every day. It would be nice to get some incentives for starting tables and MTTs, though. They shouldn't totally get rid of rewards for pros, but they should definitely never allow rewards to be how you make a living.
Global still domi
Huh? Global has awful promos. All they really offer promo wise is RB and some free sweeps here and there when you make purchases. I'm talking about things like the million dollar freeroll, giving free money out for winning a WSOP bracelet etc. Those are the type of things that actually attract recs not RB.
Attracting people with a free $5 here and there doesn't attract that customers you actually want.
Golds tournament schedule is also much, much better than Globals what are you even talking about? Global poker was fantastic 6 years ago, now it sucks and is dying.
Not only do recs and whales not want to play with those types but the thing a lot of regs that complain and want rakeback donβt realize is they too do not want to play with other 17/15 rb grinders. Itβs just a slippery slope of bad games leading to table hopping excessively, games breaking and sites dying. Another thing thatβs a positive for no rb and stricter table limits is i
The solution is for them to lower the rake some. Pots are bloated because of the ante/straddle which leads to larger bets so CWPT is going to get closer to the rake cap on every hand. Look at the GG winners list at 200nl. Despite soft games, no one beats the game pre rakeback.
The game quality is deteriorating and it will continue to do so over time. It's not apples to apples because the CWPT games play so much bigger but there were 5/10 games running on global yesterday and none on CWPT. A month ago there would be 10-20 1/2/4 games running on CWPT, now its more like 3-8. There were three tables of 2/4/8 last night and almost every player was in the 20/15 to 30/25 range. You need about two fish or one whale at every table to beat this rake long term.
I like going back to one tabling. My hourly was higher but the games at launch were ridiculously soft. I don't know if multi tabling caused the games to get softer or some of the fish blew their money and are gone forever. Probably a combo of both.
At launch it was a few things. We had most of the states, it was 1 table, and people were still getting free envelope money. The envelope people are where a huge portion of the free easy money came from because they don't know how to play poker they just were taking advantage of the loophole. As soon as they started banning the abusers of the envelopes and moved them to $2 traffic crashed. 4 table cap is more than fine Bovada was the best site in the world for years at 4 tables before they decided to just say fuck poker.
At launch it was a few things. We had most of the states, it was 1 table, and people were still getting free envelope money. The envelope people are where a huge portion of the free easy money came from because they don't know how to play poker they just were taking advantage of the loophole. As soon as they started banning the abusers of the envelopes and moved them to $2 traffic crashed. 4 table cap is more than fine Bovada was the best site in the world for years at 4 tables before they decided to just say fuck poker.
Is it really a training site if 50-75% of the HH on site can’t be evaluated? Sure ICM MTTs are vastly different than cash and HA for PLO is thin from what I gather and I understand the need to 3 card monte the FBI but the players are who suffers from an incomplete product.
Also, not having the app developed for mobile seems super lazy with the amount of take CWPTG charges seems like these should be things to implement sooner than later.
Is it really a training site if 50-75% of the HH on site canβt be evaluated? Sure ICM MTTs are vastly different than cash and HA for PLO is thin from what I gather and I understand the need to 3 card monte the FBI but the players are who suffers from an incomplete product. Also, not having the app developed for mobile seems super lazy with the amount of take CWPTG charges see
The hand analysis are garbage anyway. I have no idea about the engine behind it but the outputs are consistently different from GTOW. I've posted a few but I am seeing it over and over. Not just a small mixing error, one says 100% fold the other says 100% bet.
The increase from 1 to 4 table for cash games was too drastic I agree. It really should be 2 cash games + 2 mtts at most.
At launch it was a few things. We had most of the states, it was 1 table, and people were still getting free envelope money. The envelope people are where a huge portion of the free easy money came from because they don't know how to play poker they just were taking advantage of the loophole. As soon as they started banning the abusers of the envelopes and moved them to $2 traf
The problem is most people think that poker sites are going to cater towards winning players. They don't. They're not going to, and they can't because they'll go broke. They have to cater to recreational players. So if you think they're going to make the site better for a winning player you're crazy. They're not going to give you hand analysis that's going to make you better, they're not going to give you more free money to win. They have to cater to The Muppets
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Canada when?
Egption said "maybe this weekend" or "hopefully next week" even though it's currently the "next week" they were hoping for. Not optimistic given the PLO glitches but with Rampage and Wolfgang touring Canada starting next week they're going to want to iron the wrinkles shortly.
I think I just saw someone from NY playing again on this site on X. I thought you couldn't play again even if you moved.
Anybody else from the bans states able to get back on now that the sweepstake model is gone?
Is there any sort of update when PLO multi tabling will be added this **** is so dumb.
I think I just saw someone from NY playing again on this site on X. I thought you couldn't play again even if you moved.
Anybody else from the bans states able to get back on now that the sweepstake model is gone?
New York is not listed as an excluded state in the Terms and Conditions:
b) Within the US, the following States are excluded:
Connecticut, Louisiana, Michigan, Montana, New Jersey, and Washington;
without a doubt the random generator on this site is s***. I mean it just is I have never seen a game where so many people make a flush on the same hand. I know it happens once in a while. I have been playing for 10 straight days solid hours in every single time somebody has a flush somebody else has a flush at the same time. this random generator is dog s***
without a doubt the random generator on this site is s***. I mean it just is I have never seen a game where so many people make a flush on the same hand. I know it happens once in a while. I have been playing for 10 straight days solid hours in every single time somebody has a flush somebody else has a flush at the same time. this random generator is dog s***
Arenβt you the one that thinks the RNG is tilted in favor of fish so the games last longer?
without a doubt the random generator on this site is s***. I mean it just is I have never seen a game where so many people make a flush on the same hand. I know it happens once in a while. I have been playing for 10 straight days solid hours in every single time somebody has a flush somebody else has a flush at the same time. this random generator is dog s***
Yes.
When you have so many people seeing every flop with any 2 suited cards, flush over flush happens more often.