Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by Bill Haywood

Every three months you drop by, say it's an antisemitic thread, then don't give even a nod to proving just one post is antisemitic.

That's not true... but ty for the exchange. Take care.


by FreakDaddy

Correct. Most major religions have undergone reformations over the centuries that curtailed extremist interpretations and reduced the fusion of religious authority with political power. Christianity was among the last to go through this process, particularly during and after the Protestant Reformation and the Enlightenment, when internal challenges, secular law, and cultural pr

What we know as racism became popular during the so-called age of enlightenment.

In the Roman empire, for example, an Arab or African could reach the highest positions of power. IE Philip the Arab was a third century Roman emperor of Syrian background.

Catholic kingdoms of the middle ages were incredibly diverse and tolerant of non-Christians specially treating non-Christians with the utmost respect. This is evidence by the fact that the Muslim scholar Ibn Jubair visited the Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem around 1184 and wrote what he recorded, which is Muslims in a Christian state being treated very well.

Various historians such as Edgar Hume and Renee Grousett spoke of cultural intermingling among Muslims, Jews, and Christians throughout the middle ages. I appreciate you providing multiple paragraphs compared to the one line trolls in the thread who often hack out huge portions of other people’s posts , take posters out of context and provide little or no substance.. A religion does not technically reform. There are various movements in history that sought to have a different interpretation of a religion. But you will also see the fact that to this very day Muslims, Jews, or Christians will say that the original way of thinking the true religious way was to be tolerant of different religions and to accept multiculturalism. A religion is a religion. A person interprets that religion differently, all throughout history, all throughout the world.

In the modern era, especially in the west, we have seen a disintegration of culture. A emphasis on filth, like pornography and drugs. Emphasis on young people taught by their leaders to smoke a bunch of drugs, watch porn, pornography, love and cherish abortion. That’s not cultural advancement. It is literally cultural suicide. We don’t see that in large swaths of Christian or Muslim Africa. The interesting thing is that the left-wing pro abortion machine is also racist toward modern African culture.

“ oh Africans are so backwards”

A portion of the pro Israel right wing is also reckless and stupidly racist toward African and South American Christian communities who have the same cultural values, but because of their skin color they don’t want them as immigrants ….lots of lefties make fun of people who are against abortion against pornography against marijuana. It is a form of left-wing racism of course wrt how they denigrate various cultures in Africa in South America. All the meanwhile the low birth rate in the west if it continues, we will have a problem in the future where old folks will not get their Social Security payments and we will have all sorts of strains on the healthcare system.

Of course obviously while there is oppression of women in parts of Christian majority or Muslim majority Africa/the Middle East. …There is also tons of achievement lots of women who are doctors or other professionals… this fact is blown off by the fanatical people on both the left and right wing who support abortion who support pornography who support the marijuana industry. They don’t like that hybrid mixture which Arab secular nationalism has sort of brought us where a lot of the Arab cultures deeply respect both men and women pursuing a career while also hanging onto honorable traditional values.


by FreakDaddy

Correct. Most major religions have undergone reformations over the centuries that curtailed extremist interpretations and reduced the fusion of religious authority with political power. Christianity was among the last to go through this process, particularly during and after the Protestant Reformation and the Enlightenment, when internal challenges, secular law, and cultural pr

The modern era has brought us some of the most vile racism and violence. The worst violence in human history by far of course witnessed in both world wars in the 20th century. All occurring after multiple Geneva conventions. Yes obviously there were a number of kingdoms or empires in the ancient times in middle ages that were very brutal. The worst ever violence in terms of expansionist warfare was from World War II started by Nazi Germany which was also about 98% Christian. Of course all of the Christians in the British empire, the United States and the Soviet Union opposed Nazi Germany and helped liberate the concentration camps.

Of course the Islamic golden age in Spain occurred in Al Andulas …where during the middle ages Muslims brought extensive scientific and mathematical knowledge to southern Europe. They culturally enriched Spain.

While it’s true that there is much intolerance and strict far right conservative laws in many Muslim countries. It is simply not true for more than a few of them. Like Albania or Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan which have communist atheist histories and legacies that last to this day. There is a huge atheist population in Muslim majority Albania and Turkey. What does this mean? It is simply irrefutable evidence that there are Muslims who tolerate non-Muslim even atheist cultures.

It’s also true that according to multiple publications the worst genocide going on right now the worst religious extremism is going on in Gaza perpetrated by Jewish extremists. This is evidenced by Jewish publications using the word “unparalleled” to describe the civilian death ratio in Gaza saying it is unparalleled civilian death in modern war. Of course at the same time the anti-war in gaza protests in the west are often led by Jews.




Saw this tweet in my For You tab and thought one of the replies looked interesting. If you want to see the types of “people” who Jalfrezi, Victor and Bill Haywood are getting takes from on Twitter this is a good example. This account which may not even be a real person is injecting anti-Israel sentiment into a post that has nothing to do with Israel or Palestine.

This is also a good example of why Victor often obfuscates his sources. Because if he provided his sources it’d just take 1 click to see he’s interacting with bots.


It’s also interesting that this bot account amplifies anti-Israel sentiment as part of its strategy to engage lonely, chronically online middle aged males, who also happen to be prime demographic for radicalization.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

It’s also interesting that this bot account amplifies anti-Israel sentiment as part of its strategy to engage lonely, chronically online middle aged males, who also happen to be prime demographic for radicalization.

I'm not on social media cause it's all cancer but didn't X's new feature expose a bunch of pro-Israel accounts as well? Being located in India? I think it exposed a bunch of MAGA accounts too, some being located in Bangladesh lol.

If your point is ''dont get your information from social media'' I 100% agree ofc. It's all garbage.


by Pablito

I'm not on social media cause it's all cancer but didn't X's new feature expose a bunch of pro-Israel accounts as well? Being located in India? I think it exposed a bunch of MAGA accounts too, some being located in Bangladesh lol.

If your point is ''dont get your information from social media'' I 100% agree ofc. It's all garbage.

Yeah there’s also a lot of pro-Israel propaganda. Victor and especially Jalfrezi like to spam Twitter posts from untrustworthy sources.


jesus, talk about telling on yourself...


jesus man, talk about telling on yourself...


Liora Rez looks demonic^. Rez is behind the “stop antisemitism” propaganda group. Which is targeting people who are actually not against Jews but who criticize the Israeli government.

If a pro israel or pro Palestine group was getting Americans fired for criticizing the Israeli or Palestinian government …it is our duty as Americans to oppose such insanity .


by DoyleBrunsonFan

Saw this tweet in my For You tab and thought one of the replies looked interesting. If you want to see the types of “people” who Jalfrezi, Victor and Bill Haywood are getting takes from on Twitter this is a good example. This account which may not even be a real person is injecting anti-Israel sentiment into a post that has nothing to do with Israel or Palestine. This is

This is one of the most bizarre posts I've seen in a while, and that's saying something.


by TheKnight00

Liora Rez looks demonic^. Rez is behind the “stop antisemitism” propaganda group. Which is targeting people who are actually not against Jews but who criticize the Israeli government.If a pro israel or pro Palestine group was getting Americans fired for criticizing the Israeli or Palestinian government …it is our duty as Americans to oppose such insanity .

Liora Rez doesn't look demonic, that's silly.

Going after people for being against Israel is also silly.

Being against Israel if you are not a "Palestinian" is silly.


by Trolly McTrollson

This is one of the most bizarre posts I've seen in a while, and that's saying something.

What is bizarre about it? You do know that the Israeli flag is blue and white which is what the OnlyFans account is referring to, right? And the connotation is that the game developers are bad because they are funded by Israelis. Which may or may not be true, I’d doubt it given the source.

Trolly having his mind blown by the most mundane facts. Some things never change.


It's funny how much back and forth there has been all for nothing. Both sides are doing what they think is best for their safety and future. "Palestinians" are a glutton for punishment and really need a non sociopath leader to move them past their violent ways. I get their hatred though. The Israeli people are mad at their government for allowing this attack and for not getting the hostages back in a timely manner. They have no problem with the deaths of "Palestinian" mothers and children because they don't think anybody is innocent over there. If a child dies they think that is just one less future terrorist.

It's absurd that you people continue to think you are on the righteous side of things.

"You can't read the label when you are inside the bottle".


by mongidig

It's absurd that you people continue to think you are on the righteous side of things.

"You can't read the label when you are inside the bottle".

projection, a Trump lover's favourite pastime....


Not sure you want to go down the projection route


by DoyleBrunsonFan

What is bizarre about it? You do know that the Israeli flag is blue and white which is what the OnlyFans account is referring to, right? And the connotation is that the game developers are bad because they are funded by Israelis. Which may or may not be true, I’d doubt it given the source.

Trolly having his mind blown by the most mundane facts. Some things never change.

lol, **** was/is super weird and because of its slight ambiguity maybe not as bad as you previous post about Israel trying to not destroy stuff.
Don't get high on your own supply


by DoyleBrunsonFan

What is bizarre about it?

Finding some random thirst trap on Twitter and running here to declare "I BET VICTOR FOLLOWS HER" is weird as ****. You gotta start charging money if he's living in your mind rent-free like some kind of communist.



lol total mystery on what this report said


by Trolly McTrollson

Finding some random thirst trap on Twitter and running here to declare "I BET VICTOR FOLLOWS HER" is weird as ****. You gotta start charging money if he's living in your mind rent-free like some kind of communist.

You and 5south are too simple minded to follow. My point is clear and it stands that if you’ve spent some time on social media and have some working brain cells you will notice inorganic interactions such as the aforementioned.

Try turning on your brains and employing some critical thinking.

Anyways, looks like Mossad got to Chomsky. Uh oh. So much for the evils of capitalism and corporate America.



by 5 south

lol, **** was/is super weird and because of its slight ambiguity maybe not as bad as you previous post about Israel trying to not destroy stuff.
Don't get high on your own supply

It’s not very ambiguous if you’re at all aware of your surroundings. But I guess not everyone has the same perspective. You’re right it’s totally normal for porn bots to be pushing anti-Israel narratives under posts about gaming awards and AI. Silly me why would I even find that odd?


Israel has approved a proposal for 19 new Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank as the government pushes ahead with a construction binge in the territory that poses a further threat to the possibility of a Palestinian state.

It brings the total number of new settlements over the past few years to 69, a new record, according to the far-right finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, who has pushed a settlement expansion agenda in the West Bank. The latest include two that were previously evacuated during a 2005 disengagement plan.

The approval by the security cabinet increases the number of settlements in the West Bank by nearly 50% during the current government’s tenure. In 2022, there were 141 settlements across the West Bank. After the latest approval there are 210, according to Peace Now, an anti-settlement watchdog group.

Settlements are considered illegal under international law.



hmm saving children is probably antisemitic


Does that include the dead Ukrainian children you jerk off to, or.........?


by DoyleBrunsonFan

Anyways, looks like Mossad got to Chomsky. Uh oh. So much for the evils of capitalism and corporate America.

lol yeah this is Mossad level. I've gotten famous academics to come give talks at my office by simply emailing them to ask and paying for their flights and accommodations.

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