Pre flop check up posts.

3 bet

3bet but call can’t be that bad in the game described.

What about worse pairs and suited Aces? Is something like 22 or A2s a fold?

what do you range ep fish and lj reg on?

I think based on this the most profitable strategy is to 3bet or fold to exploit the weak range of the limper and the normalish range of the reg. So I wouldn’t be mixing it up with weak pairs and suited aces but rather play a linear range 77+ ATs+ AJo+ KJs+ QJs. Something like that.

What are the blinds like? If they are not especially sticky I agree with this approach. If they call too much, I would have a coldcalling range here as well as a 3b range. (I would 3b either way but I’m generally looking for opportunities to play multi-way pots in position against fish.)

Standard 4 8 game.

2 EP limpers to me in the SB with A9o. BB will likely call a raise. I complete. Should I raise here?

Same situation, but I am BB and SB folds. Check my option or raise?

Complete, check. Only time I’m raising this is a blind steal from LP or perhaps an isolation from LP with tight blinds.

A9s is different.

I was going to ask similar, but that makes sense. It does seem like the key difference versus the 8-16 pool is whether the blinds are going to come along with nearly ATC if Hero flats. In a stronger field the chance of being 3b behind is much higher and the chance of the blinds folding is similarly a lot higher.

Maybe I'm crazy but I would definitely consider raising both, depending on how loose-passive the limpers are. Versus a lot of low-stakes villains we have a ton of equity versus a limping range and they will be pretty faceup post.

But if the limps are tighter and dominating Ax makes up a more meaningful portion of their range, then complete/check is the more theoretically sound choice for sure (and it's never a big mistake). However, I'm imagining the type of V who VPIPs any hand with an Ace in it, any connected cards, any two Broadways, etc. and might raise AJ+.

A9o has serious playability issues, particularly out of position. Its value drops precipitously when there are more than two players in the hand. I don't mind opening with it (certainly from the CO or BTN, probably from the HJ too), isolating limpers with it, 3betting from the SB against a loose late position open, or defending the BB with it. But it's not a hand I would want to raise in a multiway pot based on my hot-and-cold equity.

I agree that it’s not bad to include more flats in your range, but since we’re going to be in bad shape against the PFR and in bad position against the rest of the field, we’re incentivized to 3bet here. I don’t think it’s a major mistake to have a flatting range but I think best strat is 3b/fold, especially since people behind can wake up with hands.

Limp. Check.

A9 is just not a great hand and you’re OOP. I would say AJ is probably the worst offsuit ace I would raise with.

4 8 game is good, I have 2 of the worst players on either side of me. Playing wide, calling wide, raising wide, making stupid bluffs.

8 handed, 2 limps to me in MP with Ad6d. I limp along, call, fold, BTN call, SB call, older asian guy BB raises, calls to me I 3!, bad player cap, all calls.

I don't know why you would limp and then back three-bet. Just raise when it comes to you the first time.

why 3b? A6s aint that great.

id just raise the first time, try to get position.

FPS. Either raise the first time or just call the obviously nutted bb raise.

Yep I would raise the first time and not back raise. BB’s raise is super strong and you have the worst suited Ax hand.

I can see raising in the HJ or later to try to buy the button..why am I raising earlier with 2 limpers? Agree 3! was a mistake.
At 4/8 even in the HJ I almost never can buy the BTN but the players call with such trash I don't mind so much.

You partially answered you own question, donkeys are going to call no matter what. When you have an equity advantage you should raise and A6s falls in that category.

Yeah, you either way undervalue A6s or you are limping way too much.

You should raise A6s preflop because it has an equity advantage and it is usually pretty straightforward to realize that equity, particularly in a multiway pot at a smaller-stakes game. In a more aggressive game you can end up in situations where you get whipsawed with pair+BDFD or gutshot+BDFD type hands, but I would not worry much about that outcome at these stakes.

Thanks for feedback, here's another one

4/8 game, dynamic table. 2 bad players limp, relatively unknown ME younger guy(30s) in CO has shown alot of aggression/action play raises, I am BTN with QTs. BB is hold/cold tilty capable of 3 bet. Could wind up capped back to me.

Whats my move?

So I should be opening UTG 8 handed with any suited ace?

No because you have more information once you have folds and limpers.

Opening A6s UTG there is a huge likelihood that there will be a better hand or two out there.

I would 3bet