Resorts World NYC (Queens, NY)

https://nycasinos.ny.gov/gaming-facility...

^report that specifically mentions 13 table poker room

https://nycasinos.ny.gov/system/files/do...

^ hours of operation document

I doubt those will have much merit

I think when contacting RW about the future poker room we should be obsequious and deferential.

WEN PLAY POKAH?

Prolly 2027

It just crossed my mind, considering how high the minimums are here maybe the lowest stakes will be 10/25 or 25/50

LOL no chance. If the lowest stakes are 10-25 they absolutely will not come close to filling even a 13 table room would be my guess.

10/25 might be pushing it, but especially in the very beginning, they could easily fill 13 tables of 5/10 NL + and 10/10 PLO +

An LA 10/25 lol. But yea that might be pushing it
But 5/10 easily could be packed with dudes min buying in

minbuying 5/10 and waiting to squeeze-jam AK is the dream.

my friend went yesterday, said there was a couple $50 blackjack tables with one $25 table.

He also talked with a pit boss who said he believes poker will be there in 3-4 months.

I want this to be true so very desperately . The drives have been killing me lately lol

It could be but why would they do that? Rake isn't going to be higher than 2-5 (probably). Also 5-10+ tend to be jackpot exempt as time rake (obvs depends, sometimes 2-5 is too), and those are the promotions that they use to get the more gambly folks into the casino.

I'd be absolutely stunned if they didn't have 2-5, I'd be pretty stunned if they didn't have 1-3 tbh.

running any promotions in the room that is going to be operating at max capacity for 5 years straight would by pretty dumb but most poker rooms aren't run by geniuses

If they open 13 tables there’s not gonna be 1/3, maybe Wednesday afternoons. But weekends, half PLO, the could easily fill 7 tables of 5/10+

Im basing that off the high minimums on table games

then we gotta sweat if it's a 13 table poker room or a "normal sized" one.

Promotions don't cost them anything to run and in fact make them money. Why would they not run them?

I guess we have a differing definitions of a "fact" then

how do they "in fact" make them money?

Casinos can take an "admin charge" out of the jackpot drop and most casinos do (in most states this is allowed, to be fair I don't know that about NY State).

Separate to that they encourage people to come who may not otherwise come. If they're going to be full anyway then the question becomes the "type" of people they attract.

I was operating in general under the assumption the poker room would be larger than 13 tables, but I do think people here are overestimating what is going to happen. Every casino I can think of where $50 is a minimum table bet at weekends that has poker runs smaller games. Boston, MGM National Harbor, Vegas Strip Casinos, etc.

Yeah, NY is going to be a new (and larger) market but how many places get nothing but 7+ 5-10 games going?

I'd be willing to wager that within 6 months of opening 2-5 and likely 1-3 is running often.

It’s all dependent on the size of the room.

But Tuesdays at Parx very regularly get 3-5 10/10NL tables, 1-2 10/20/40 triple blind tables, 1-2 10/10 PLO tables. Often times with one or two additional bigger games like 50/100. Thinking NYC can’t do at least that and probably more on weekends, especially when it first opens, is almost definitely wrong.

I really wouldn’t at all be surprised if for the first couple months we see that type of volume of mid stakes games 7 days a week

Of course NYC can and will likely do that, I'm saying that I don't think the lowest stakes available will be 5-10+ that's all.

Yeah and MGM National Harbor generally at weekends has 2-4 5-10 tables, 1-2 10-25, then 1 of 100-200+. They also however have 30+ 1-3 tables and 6+ 2-5 tables. They seem to have a 10-10 PLO5 more often than a 5-5 too lol. These places also took time to get a following.

What NYC double has for it other than its size is the lack of competition. That said, if the room ends up sucking I don't expect it to take away from private games at the higher stakes and don't expect people who live west of the Hudson to opt for Jamaica over Parx, at least not immediately.

I would probably feel differently if the room was open in a location that you would get a lot more tourist traffic.

I expect it to be beyond rammed for the first 6 months obviously, same happened at Rivers Chicago and Encore Boston Harbor.

I think the main point here is 13 tables would be a disaster lol

Massive wasted opportunity for them too to get miles ahead of the competition.

For sure 13 tables is absurd. If they open in the next few months though, I suspect it will be small with plans to expand in the future.

I think your point about people west of the Hudson, or south of Staten Island, is correct initially. The one thing idk if people from those areas are factoring in is the mid-long term impact on their games. They aren’t gonna want to come into NYC, but half the players in Parx are from NYC. The room becomes much less attractive when they lose that crowd.

The private games I honestly have no idea. Players who want/need credit will keep playing private. Good game runners who know how to hook their VIPs up will keep at least some of their action. I imagine it’s not a doomsday situation for the underground but I’d be shocked if there were many players who didn’t at least start playing some volume in the casinos, if we’re talking about games up to 50/100.

I’m still hoping this place eventually has a 100 table room with plenty of everything from 1/3 to 50/100, NL, PLO, badugi, whatever lol