The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance
The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance
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The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance

Attaching a poll ... Dems unfavorability rating increased from 45% to 57% during the Biden Administration.

03 February 2025 at 11:49 PM
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by Rococo m

There is a long history of "polite" right wing trolls baiting tirades from angry left-wing posters. For better or worse, I think both sides get what they want from those exchanges.

Sure. But SRM doesn't require 'baiting' to launch into a profanity-laced rant. It comes naturally for him.


by Rococo m

As I've said before, I'm not sure I have ever heard an intelligent comment from someone who uses the term TDS.

My Dad used the term a lot. (But that was in the mid-1970's when he worked for a company called Transactional Data Systems.)


by pokerfan655 m

Do you think I value what you have to say?

I value what Rococo has to say, even though we're not the least bit aligned politically.


by pokerfan655 m

Let me ask you a question - do you think there are consistent left wingers on here that fly off the handle if you post anything that isn't completely 100% anti Trump?

Of course.

Do you think there are ANY conservative views you would see as valid?

Validity is a weird criteria. I don't know what it would mean for a political view to be valid or invalid. There are many progressive policies with which I disagree (and many with which I agree). Are there traditional conservative political views with which I agree? I am sympathetic to traditional conservative concerns about the long term impact of excessive deficit spending, but it has been a long time since the Republican party really cared about fiscal responsibility. Trump certainly doesn't. I am sympathetic to a more traditional education curriculum. (I'm not talking about stupid conservative concerns about books that depict gay characters, etc. I'm talking more about reading the classics and learning the basics of history.) I was not on team "shut down the world forever" because of COVID, although I obviously appreciated the reasons for the initial shutdown.


by pokerfan655 m

Let me ask you a question - do you think there are consistent left wingers on here that fly off the handle if you post anything that isn't completely 100% anti Trump? Do you think there are ANY conservative views you would see as valid?

Rococo gets flack from Lefties here all the time when he doesn't toe-the-line.


by pokerfan655 m

Let me ask you a question - do you think there are consistent left wingers on here that fly off the handle if you post anything that isn't completely 100% anti Trump? Do you think there are ANY conservative views you would see as valid?

Conservatives abandoned values years ago.


by biggerboat m

Conservatives abandoned values years ago.

Liberals abandoned the middle class and poor and sided with criminals over victims


by lozen m

Liberals abandoned the middle class and poor and sided with criminals over victims

Oh well in that case, it's totally okay for conservatives to abandon their values.

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DUCY whataboutism is pointless?


by lozen m

Liberals abandoned the middle class and poor and sided with criminals over victims

Trump was convicted of dozens of crimes, but those who voted for him didn’t side with a criminal. Right.

You’re beyond help or hope. A special kind of stupid you are.


by lozen m

Liberals abandoned the middle class and poor and sided with criminals over victims

Are you using the term liberal and leftist interchangeably?


by checkraisdraw m

Are you using the term liberal and leftist interchangeably?

Well does the Democrat party not consist of both?


by whatthejish m

Oh well in that case, it's totally okay for conservatives to abandon their values.

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DUCY whataboutism is pointless?

by TheBigEasy m

Trump was convicted of dozens of crimes, but those who voted for him didn’t side with a criminal. Right.

You’re beyond help or hope. A special kind of stupid you are.

Yes they may have abandoned their values but so has the left. Take the border Obama and Hilary had the same position as Trump


by checkraisdraw m

. You of all people with how single-mindedly obsessed about mathusian visions of resource scarcity should realize the danger of a climate denying authoritarian like Trump.

The US rose to the position of world's greatest fossil fuel producer under Obama.

The Paris Accord delivered under Obama was pure theater with no jurisdiction or commitments just as Kyoto was pure theater under Clinton-Gore.

Yes ... Trump is a denier ..... but practically speaking, both parties have near identical policy.

Obama is all image, no substance.




by whatthejish m

That needs to be lozen's avatar


by lozen m

Liberals abandoned the middle class and poor and sided with criminals over victims

Actually, they didn't, but go ahead and think that if it makes you feel better.


by TheBigEasy m

Again, you are incorrect. Trump’s broken personality and sociopathic inclinations make him orders of magnitude worse than any major party nominee for POTUS in US history.The fact he still hasn’t conceded 2020 and incited a riot on J6 is frankly all anyone should need to know to recognize Trump should not be allowed anywhere near the WhiteHousePiss poor judgment. Piss ****ing

The Jan 6 riot was targeted at an institution (Congress) with an 18% favorability rating among the US public.

When the public is denied a democratic (small d) option to legislation that will help them, violence s/b expected. I don't endorse violence, but I'm not naive enough to believe that people are going to roll over and die en masse.


by checkraisdraw m

If one guy lies about being an ******* and another guy tells the truth about being a sociopath, I’ll take the lying ******* over the honest sociopath.

So that's what our choices are. Honest sociopath or dishonest sociopath.

Either way, we get a sociopath.


Certainly didn't predict Nut Nut's shift from new world order fan fiction to bothsides.gif posting. Either way, it's sure to be boring as ****.


by whatthejish m

Certainly didn't predict Nut Nut's shift from new world order fan fiction to bothsides.gif posting. Either way, it's sure to be boring as ****.

We have 2 extinction parties to choose from in the US.

You can toss out insults but you can't debate the substance.


by Nut Nut m

We have 2 extinction parties to choose from in the US.

You can toss out insults but you can't debate the substance.

Which political party cares most about the environment?
AI Overview
Surveys and voting records indicate that Democrats prioritize environmental protection as a top policy issue compared to Republicans. However, the two parties emphasize different factors and motivations when addressing climate and energy.

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The Democratic Approach
Core Motivation: Driven by the desire to combat global warming, reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and protect ecosystems for future generations.

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Policy Focus: Favors heavy federal action, transitioning to renewable energy, and emissions regulations. Major platforms like the California Democratic Party Energy and Environment page emphasize reducing reliance on fossil fuels.

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Public Opinion: Polls show that approximately 78% to 83% of Democrats believe protecting the environment should take priority over economic growth.

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The Republican Approach
Core Motivation: Support for environmental and energy policies is often driven by economic factors, such as keeping consumer costs low and increasing job growth.

Pew Research Center
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Policy Focus: Supports an "all-of-the-above" energy strategy that includes expanding both renewable energy sources and traditional energy sources like fossil fuels.

Pew Research Center
Public Opinion: Research from Pew Research Center shows that Republicans tend to weigh economic concerns more heavily, though a significant portion still values environmental conservation for future generations.

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The both sidsers fail to take into account that the republicans fight tooth and nail to stop any and every policy that the democrats attempt to install. If things like universal healthcare and strong environmental laws don't happen, it ain't because the democrats aren't trying.


by biggerboat m

The both sidsers fail to take into account that the republicans fight tooth and nail to stop any and every policy that the democrats attempt to install. If things like universal healthcare and strong environmental laws don't happen, it ain't because the democrats aren't trying.

Kamala Harris did not believe in Universal Healthcare and lets not forget Gavin Newsom that ran on a Universal Health Care program but once elected and had the majority to pass it abandoned it after a few dinners and a wad of cash from the Healthcare lobbyists .

The Dems could pass universal healthcare by just eliminating the filibuster


by lozen m

The Dems could pass universal healthcare by just eliminating the filibuster

This is an issue unto itself. I honestly don't understand all of the implications, but neither party seems to want to do it.


by biggerboat m

This is an issue unto itself. I honestly don't understand all of the implications, but neither party seems to want to do it.

Ask yourself the following question: What would the combination of this Congress and this administration have done in the absence of the filibuster? The answer to that question will explain why both parties are reluctant to eliminate the flibuster.

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