President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
That’s a great idea. Maybe you could get a same day colonoscopy, assuming it cost more than 25 dollars.
Two for the price of one if you pretend to be someone else on the internet.
They showed him during the national anthem and the crowd was booing loudly. That probably means ICE will be crawling all over the city by the weekend.
Missed that. Watched it. Laughed bigly
Govt spending done right?
Shoutout the president of the United States waiting til he was on camera to salute the national anthem
Patriot
I'm sure Trump is not asleep; he's in deep thought deciding exactly when to nuke Cuba.
It is neat how the banner on the page describes it as "Official President Trump Gold & Silver" and the about page states that it is "the only official Trump coins approved by President Donald J. Trump". Meanwhile, it is privately minted and based on a licensing deal to a company Trump wholly owns.
Say what you will about trump, his commitment to grifting any human stupid enough to fall for it is legendary
There's no question Trump is a high end genius in many ways; the best of the best. You don't survive and thrive in the New York Real Estate market for decades including through major downturns which killed other high flyers, or brand at a global level that well, or win the most powerful/contested presidency in the world against two hostile incumbent parties as a pure outsider, without being a genius. No one has ever done the latter. He was helped by Democrats and the left wing establishment generally that had gone Full Clown Mode/kookoo level religious-like mania in various ways that made the non-insane majority go wtf no, but still.
He has plenty of blind spots and few incapacities - trusting instinct over more detailed reasoning is one - but is still perhaps the most impressive individual of our lifetiime. I can't think of a peer he has.
There's no question Trump is a high end genius in many ways; the best of the best. You don't survive and thrive in the New York Real Estate market for decades including through major downturns which killed other high flyers, or brand at a global level that well, or win the most powerful/contested presidency in the world against two hostile incumbent parties as a pure outsider,
Trump should absolutely be given credit for what he has done to get to this point. He has had a lot of help from the buffoons on the left for sure. He is in way over his head when it comes to geopolitical politics. He is surrounded by yes men which is not good. His narcissism is terrible for the country.
There's no question Trump is a high end genius in many ways; the best of the best. You don't survive and thrive in the New York Real Estate market for decades including through major downturns which killed other high flyers, or brand at a global level that well, or win the most powerful/contested presidency in the world against two hostile incumbent parties as a pure outsider,
Nah he's just a standard Manchurian type. Remember Ivanna said he kept a book of Hitler speeches by his bed. He's been planning/picked to be POTUS for a long time.
There's no question Trump is a high end genius in many ways; the best of the best. You don't survive and thrive in the New York Real Estate market for decades including through major downturns which killed other high flyers, or brand at a global level that well, or win the most powerful/contested presidency in the world against two hostile incumbent parties as a pure outsider,
He wasn’t a pure outsider and he didn’t go against two incumbent parties. In fact in his first campaign he bragged about being an insider who knew the game, which he used to attack Hillary.
Not sure why Trump supporters are prone to these random outbursts of fanfiction but here we are.
Of course he was. How did other billionaires do trying to run for president? Being an insider billionaire is not the same as being a political insider. Both established parties were against him winning, strongly.
Trump should absolutely be given credit for what he has done to get to this point. He has had a lot of help from the buffoons on the left for sure. He is in way over his head when it comes to geopolitical politics. He is surrounded by yes men which is not good. His narcissism is terrible for the country.
I'm undecided on this one. His first term was amazing for the world; strengthening of Europe, wars brought to an end, "peace through strength", the cowing of Iran for 3 years. I mean objectively it's just true. Look at the disaster under Obama - ISIS arming and rise, Ukraine first invasion, Iran funded and enabled (which helped to destabilize the whole Middle East through their funding of proxies), horrific weakness that emboldened a lot of bad actors. Then Biden - second Ukraine invasion, again because of horrific weakness (that was easily stopped when Putin was testing the waters with the buildup).
Evidence that he's excellent at geopolitics:
- First term was the best president in decades for foreign affairs/cooling the world down from its conflicts/cowing bad actors
- Second term Maduro was a masterstroke. Venezuela is far better off and a message was sent
- Tariffs did a lot of good things to global trade flows, strengthening global supply chains
- Forcing Europe to build up its arms industry and grow a backbone (started in the first term which is probably the only reason Ukraine has survived) has been incredibly valuable for the world and may be his most consequential act long term
Evidence against:
- Iran remains to be seen. It's not looking good so far, but it's also not played out. I don't know whether his hand was forced by Israel or not. I'll judge this one when it plays out, but likely negative for now.
- Not achieving a few objectives that a smarter president could have, for example around China.
I think it's leaning in his favor that he's better than average at geopolitics.
Nah he's just a standard Manchurian type. Remember Ivanna said he kept a book of Hitler speeches by his bed. He's been planning/picked to be POTUS for a long time.
they gotta bring in a Trump type when they want to start new wars and increase the slaughter.
Of course he was. How did other billionaires do trying to run for president? Being an insider billionaire is not the same as being a political insider.
Kennedy family net worth was billions of dollars (inflation adjusted) when he ran. LBJ had over 100 million which would make him close to or a billionaire inflation adjusted. Herbert Hoover and Teddy Roosevelt were quite rich, also billionaires inflation adjusted.
So you’re just wrong that there is no history of billionaire equivalent people becoming president.
Both established parties were against him winning, strongly.
No they weren’t. Once he won the primary, he was supported by the Republican party.
Of course he was. How did other billionaires do trying to run for president? Being an insider billionaire is not the same as being a political insider. Both established parties were against him winning, strongly.I'm undecided on this one. His first term was amazing for the world; strengthening of Europe, wars brought to an end, "peace through strength", the cowing of Iran for 3
I used to think this way regarding your argument for Trump being above average at geopolitics. I was naively hopeful he was playing 4d chess. It’s possible he is. I agree the Iran war could still play out as a win. I just can’t ignore anymore the pure stupidity of his comments and posts on Truth Social regarding the war or anything else for that matter. Creating a moral equivalency between Israel and Hezbollah telling both to stop attacking. Saying he would be honored to meet with Mojtaba Khamenei. The constant lies that a deal is almost done. Also, the nerve of him saying that high gas prices are worth the price of Iran not getting a nuclear weapon while average Americans are struggling. I don’t think he knows what he doing. I used to hope he did.
I never saw 4d chess but I did see decent principles and pressure and strategy sanely applied. As well as a vision of the future. Getting Europe to get off their lazy asses and pay for their own defense in 2018 was huge, and because of it they can now fully cover the Ukraine war. And he had a solid long term vision. One of my favorite vids is Trump at the UN in 2018 warning German diplomats that becoming dependent on Russia gas is a big mistake, while they laugh and shake their heads in wonderment like he's nuts.
As for gas, it's $15/week extra on average. If that is making life a struggle I don't know what to say. It's definitely worth the small extra weekly outflow. Long term systemic economic effects which have not come to pass, maybe not worth it, but we're not there yet.
I don't really care much about words. Actions are what matter.
As for gas, it's $15/week extra on average. If that is making life a struggle I don't know what to say.
Please tell me that you truly believe the price of oil only affects the price of the gasoline you put in your car. I didn't think such people actually existed.
I used to think this way regarding your argument for Trump being above average at geopolitics. I was naively hopeful he was playing 4d chess. It’s possible he is. I agree the Iran war could still play out as a win. I just can’t ignore anymore the pure stupidity of his comments and posts on Truth Social regarding the war or anything else for that matter. Creating a moral equival
lol, the man's decisions are based on what mood he is in and who he talks to.
He's literally mocked foreign adversaries, then praise them when it helped negotiations.
He imposed tariffs and argued they were essential, then reversed course and argued that changing direction was the right decision using the same convoluted reasoning behind both decisions.
His Iran decisions were probably heavily influenced by Bibi sweet talking him and now he at least more correctly realizes how dumb that decision really was.
If he continues to argue for a ceasefire into perpetuity while stating every day that the deal is just around the corner, because he's afraid the market might drop, it would still be an improvement of most other choices he has made up to this point - and better than what Bush would have done if he was in his spot rn.
