Donald J. Trump (For everyone else)

There is literally nowhere in the entire country that will let trans athletes compete without being on hormone therapy for at least a year

How about you take estrogen for a year and tell us what happens and then we can circle back on this topic

You guys know what the first Nazi book burning was about right?

source for the bold? it was more than one order of magnitude more for the USA in the data I saw (admittedly, it was mostly girls having their breasts mutilated).

Polling on this issue has been moving quickly. Even Newsom is saying the party went too far left on this issue:

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06...

As complex as biology and sex is, it's just odd that everyone in here thinks people on the left should have 100% nailed this issue on the first go-around.

But then again... I guess I'm speaking to people who see things in very black and white terms.

I can tell you first hand, I didn't have any friends or family on the left that agreed trans women in women sports was ok. I still hold this was a covid moment, where people spent too much time virtue signal scrolling, and not fully thinking things through.

I read this three times and have no idea what you are saying.

I'll just restate my post to see if it helps you. If not, could you please reword your post?

He asked why I fight so hard for transgender rights in sports. I have never fought at all for that. I've never even stated my opinion on it here, or to anyone verbally. I was pointing out that there is no way he thinks I fought hard for that when I've never even stated my opinion on it.

I don't know what your post has to do with that. Or even what point it is trying to make. I think maybe you just didn't know the context of my post. Correct me if I'm wrong.

trans activism was the necessary consequences of obergefelles.

not in the sense anti-gay-marriage people thought though.

rather in the sense that the many people whose entire livelihood and life identity was based on getting donations to campaign for homosexuals rights were going to be out of a job soon after obergefelles. the totality of what the LGB movement wanted was entirely secured with that. no activism for homosexuals had any meaning or sense anymore inside the USA.

so what do you do if you never knew anything but campaigning for homosexuals to pay bills and live a normal middle class life? you need a new minority to campaign for in the same way.

and that's where the "QT" to add to LGB came out in force. ofc it existed already but almost no one gave any **** at all (including activists). no money to make, no interest.

those activists managed to leverage the unexpected and exceptional win for their side of Obergefelles into a frenzy about trans rights

Strawman forecast: CONDITIONS FAVORABLE

Oof, that didn't take long. I've actually been a proponent of women's sports leagues, and even worked hard in my days as a chess coach to promote women's only tournaments. Not even close, bub, and nothing I've ever posted supports this.

I've never stated an opinion on whether biological men should be allowed to compete against biological women in any event. I am going to do so now. I am not in favor of it. I would rather it not happen at all, but might be open to heavily regulated options that might include having undergone feminizing hormone therapy for x amount of time (the current standard if I'm not mistaken) if shown ample evidence that it was sufficient. I don't even like that idea, but I'm not unreasonable if evidence were convincing. I haven't looked into it because this topic almost never occupies any of my brain cycles.

So, yeah. Again, you are way out of bounds.

This is INCREDIBLY rich. Coming from one of the stupidest people on the forum. I didn't say stupidest because BJ and PB are still 2+2 members.

You're better than this one, microbet.

Unless you're just a victim of the propaganda behind this, in which case we'll let it slide.

The liberals answer to this sports question seems to have been the small government answer. Let the NCAA decide who goes into men's and who goes into women's sports. Let a school district decide for themselves. etc. The conservatives are all big government here.

Is that right? Is there any direction from the federal government saying trans women go into women's sports?

Get used to the straw men. I think they never get called out for them anywhere else, because at least some of them appeared to not know what it meant and thought it must mean we were making it up or just learned it or something.

Straw men are their absolute favorite.

It's a question. Do you know what the first Nazi book burning was about? Do you?

And no, I'm not better than that. The hysteria over what people consider perversions and sexual deviancy is incredibly fascist.

what do you do when the USA has to express an explicit state preference on that topic for, say, the Olympics?

once again house states it better than i could

He did post about Luciferianism. It might be that, for one reason or another, one should not attempt to seriously debate him.

this needs more love

Cancel the ****ing Olympics. What a waste.

the satanic panic is back baby!

you want the USA to be banned from all international sport competitions, or just to renounce any right to discuss international sport regulations even if USA teams can participate?

Tell that to the two girls in the videos posted ITT. If I thought it would make a lick of difference, I'd go find more for you.

You can't unring the male puberty bell, no matter how much estrogen you pump into a man many years later.

USA banned? I don't want the Olympics at all. If I got a vote on whether USA should attend (or host ffs), I'd vote no.

two biological men recently won olympic gold in women's boxing, try to keep up

tbf his entrance into politics posting here was sharing news articles from a cult believing the brother of jesus is a korean guy born in 1920 so i'm guessing this is probably a step in the right direction

according to one russian tester that won't publish their results and directly resulted in a russian athlete winning? You mean the discredited horse **** you are spewing? Keep up rick, and check your news sources.