US Immigration Crisis

US Immigration Crisis

I didn’t see an immigration thread so I figured I would add one. This problem seems to be worsening everyday of the current admin. Hopefully some of our new elected officials can help with this. Mr. Luttrell is a great start

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20 April 2023 at 04:46 PM
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by microbet k

The first thing bolded is right. There's a big difference between removals and returns and the vast majority of these cases in the Biden admin were Title 42 "expulsions", which I do not support and never did, but they were denying people entry into the US because of COVID.

eta: I don't think the last sentence is right and I doubt there is very much connection between what a candidate campaigns on and how many people try to cross the border. COVID, jobs, politics and other events in the source

main idea is that Biden deported a lot, but mostly people who never "settled".

for some people like you that might not matter too much, but for others, deporting a person who has been living years in the USA without creating problems is a lot worse than deporting someone who just entered without a legal claim to enter.

for others like me, they should all be deported ofc


by Inso0 k

That's an entirely different topic.

I want to get back to the part where we start locking people who can't behave themselves up and throw away the key.

Go pick those Jan 6th rapists and murderers back up and bring them back to a cell. But also, keep deporting illegals.

I can have my cake and eat it, too. It's not very hard.

death penalty on the spot on Jan 6 (shoot to kill every single violent offender as it would be 100% reasonable to do), do the same with all other violent offenders in other instances.

so no matter the elections, those people aren't around anymore to be pardoned.




by Luciom k

death penalty on the spot on Jan 6 (shoot to kill every single violent offender as it would be 100% reasonable to do), do the same with all other violent offenders in other instances.

so no matter the elections, those people aren't around anymore to be pardoned.

You are against state violence correct ?


by corpus vile k

Ssh. Be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting migwants... 😀

Speaking of which, our state’s Board of Education just unanimously passed a proposal that requires parents to prove their citizenship when they enroll their children in school. It goes to the legislature next and then the governor where it will pass and be signed into law.


by Crossnerd k

Speaking of which, our state’s Board of Education just unanimously passed a proposal that requires parents to prove their citizenship when they enroll their children in school. It goes to the legislature next and then the governor where it will pass and be signed into law.

This is liberalism in a nutshell


by Luciom k

main idea is that Biden deported a lot, but mostly people who never "settled".

for some people like you that might not matter too much, but for others, deporting a person who has been living years in the USA without creating problems is a lot worse than deporting someone who just entered without a legal claim to enter.

for others like me, they should all be deported ofc

It does make a big difference. Obviously kidnapping someone and deporting them is a lot worse than turning someone away at the border.


by Victor k

This is liberalism in a nutshell

nope because that's illegal under SCOTUS precedent plyler [1982)].

liberalism is when you do that and it is perfectly legal


by Victor k

This is liberalism in a nutshell

I guess, but I think she said she's in a red state. California schools seem to be trying to figure out what they can do to protect undocumented students.


by Montrealcorp k

You are against state violence correct ?

no? I am in favor of all legally sanctioned use of state violence for the purpose of protecting the body and property of citizens (one of the main roles of the state).

I am not an anarchist, I am a classic liberal


by Victor k

This is liberalism in a nutshell

I live in one of the reddest states, so I’m confused what you mean?


by Crossnerd k

I live in one of the reddest states, so I’m confused what you mean?

To add to this, the police presence on the roads has been so high here the last 3 days. It’s almost more comforting to just tell myself I’m imagining it. I want to be imagining it.


by Crossnerd k

I live in one of the reddest states, so I’m confused what you mean?

do you think liberals dont live in red states?

this is simply offloading the guilt. a few days ago teachers were ready to take up arms if ICE showed up at their schools (laudable), but with these changes ICE will not show up at their schools. problem solved.


by microbet k

I guess, but I think she said she's in a red state. California schools seem to be trying to figure out what they can do to protect undocumented students.

I would predict that they come around and figure out ways to protect the residents from seeing the fruits of Imperialism and fascism. fascists revel in it. liberals make it hidden. the results are the same in the end. well really, the liberal way is more effective.


by Victor k

do you think liberals dont live in red states?

this is simply offloading the guilt. a few days ago teachers were ready to take up arms if ICE showed up at their schools (laudable), but with these changes ICE will not show up at their schools. problem solved.

I still don’t follow. This is to make the ICE raids easier and to scare undocumented immigrants from enrolling their children at all. It was dreamed up by our psychopath superintendent who mandated Bibles and the 10 commandments be taught in classrooms.


if no undocumented children are registered then ICE will not show up at the school.


by Crossnerd k

I still don’t follow. This is to make the ICE raids easier and to scare undocumented immigrants from enrolling their children at all. It was dreamed up by our psychopath superintendent who mandated Bibles and the 10 commandments be taught in classrooms.

They shouldn't be here illegally. I feel horribly for the children but it's time to take care of this problem.


by Victor k

if no undocumented children are registered then ICE will not show up at the school.

Is that your honest prediction, Victor? You foresee that being the likely scenario?


by Crossnerd k

I still don’t follow. This is to make the ICE raids easier and to scare undocumented immigrants from enrolling their children at all. It was dreamed up by our psychopath superintendent who mandated Bibles and the 10 commandments be taught in classrooms.

So you don’t want the bible or the 10 commandments taught but other ideologies are ok ?


by Luciom k

no? I am in favor of all legally sanctioned use of state violence for the purpose of protecting the body and property of citizens (one of the main roles of the state).

I am not an anarchist, I am a classic liberal

But when it’s a law you don’t like you don’t hold hold the same standard .
And if it’s stated in the constitution u don’t agree with its interpretations even it’s been sanctions legally by the Supreme Court .
So it’s not about law , it’s about what you like mostly .
U don’t care much about law if you find it to your liking so then u go , they are evil !
“They don’t know , only I knows and knows the truth and what real liberty and morals are .”-luciom .

If that is not totalitarian like a theocracy, communist or fascist , using extreme government violence at first sight , I don’t what is …


by Crossnerd k

Is that your honest prediction, Victor? You foresee that being the likely scenario?

I see this as a way for the schools to comply with the idea but not let ICE in to the schools. like I said, its a way to offload the more nasty parts of fascism and put it out of sight and out of mind.


They’re kicking out brown immigrants to bring in a bunch of white Nazis


national socialists?

Really...


by biggerboat k

I've been thinking about how two of the worst deplorables here could only come up the word "criminal" to describe millions of men, women, and children who have come here under the worst possible circumstances in order to have a better life. That's how they view people who's only "crime" is simply to exist here.

Those same deplorables stand up and applaud when 1600 actual criminals serving time get off scot-free.

These are your people

If you sneak into this country you are a criminal. What is it you don't understand? I can argue that people who rob banks are looking for a better life. They also are criminals.

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