Israel/Palestine thread
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US could stop all of this in an instant. they want the war. this is plainly obv to anyone paying attention.
British Jews adjusting to ‘new reality’ after year-long surge in antisemitism
Community Security Trust says number of antisemitic incidents has tripled compared with previous 12 months
The warning comes as data shows more than 5,500 antisemitic incidents were recorded in the UK in the year between 7 October 2023 and 30 September 2024.
The Community Security Trust (CST) said the figure is three times that of the previous 12-month period, during which 1,830 incidents were recorded.
The majority of the incidents took the form of abusive behaviour (4,583), while others involved threats (401) or assault (302).
When asked if the UK Jewish community was bracing for more incidents after the Iranian missile strikes in Israel, Dave Rich, head of policy at the CST, said there had been no relaxing of precautions since October 2023.
“We’ve seen this pattern before in previous years where Israel is at war and we get these big spikes in antisemitism,” Rich said. “But previously, those conflicts have only lasted a couple of weeks or maybe a month, and then things kind of calm down.
What would be the "world war"? i never get it when people claim that's the risk for Ukraine or for the middle east.
There is no meaningful world war if there isn't an USA vs China direct military confrontation.
Only Taiwan issues could potentially trigger a world war
If Iran follows through on its threat to destroy much of the world's energy supply, I could definitely see dominos falling in a way that could lead towards world conflict.
If Israel destroyed Iran's fossil fuel industry, and Iran retaliated by attacking the Gulf States, nations like China and India, that rely heavily on energy from this region, would definitely get involved, and who knows what will happen.
Even if there was risk of a world war it does not mean that it is due to USA's actions. There's some bizarre thing where everything that goes right in the world is despite what USA has done, and everything wrong in the world is directly due to USA.
Who says literally everything wrong with the world is the fault of the US?
14 Israelis killed today.
Pretty awful stuff.
they already did
If Iran follows through on its threat to destroy much of the world's energy supply, I could definitely see dominos falling in a way that could lead towards world conflict.
If Israel destroyed Iran's fossil fuel industry, and Iran retaliated by attacking the Gulf States, nations like China and India, that rely heavily on energy from this region, would definitely get involved, and who knows what will happen.
If Iran somehow attacks saudi arabia or others in the region, how do we end up with a world war? we end up with China, India and the USA racing to whom destroys Iran first right?
The west + China + India vs Iran + Venezuela + Russia isn't a world war, it's a bloodbath with one side capitulating within 72 hours, China taking over lands in Asia, and the west permanently controlling the middle east through it's allies.
I mean if the idea is "we are closer to do a axil of evil vs the rest of the world" confrontation, let's go boyz and fix the world for the next 50+ years
Y'all read the White House statement on the death of Nasrallah, right?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room...
I love that they just flat out call out how many Americans he was responsible for killing, and that he had it coming. Because frankly, he did,
"The United States fully supports Israel’s right to defend itself against Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, and any other Iranian-supported terrorist groups."
That's all it is, in the end. As the Wu said, Protect Ya Neck.
This is such nonsense. It's drawing on the canard that there's an inherent Muslim desire to destroy Israel -- we're surrounded boo hoo.
The truth is that different governments are following their interests based on their own situations. So you have Jordan and Egypt with peace treaties with Israel. You have Arab citizens of Israel who are not inveterately hostile.
This is such nonsense. It's drawing on the canard that there's an inherent Muslim desire to destroy Israel -- we're surrounded boo hoo.
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Bill, there is a clock in Tehran counting down to 2040, the year they have sworn to destroy Israel. They don't hide it (happy to pull speeches). The Houthis have it on their FLAG ("God Is the Greatest, Death to America, Death to Israel, A Curse Upon the Jews). Hamas doesn't hide it. Nasrallah had said [URL="https://www.timesofisrael.com/nasrallah-says-it-israel-will-cease-to-exist-if-war-erupts-as-rhetoric-escalates/"]"Israel will cease to exist if war erupts"
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All the signs are there. And you're pretending like they aren't. I'm truly not sure why. At this point for most of us, it's super weird that you have this bias
Even if there was risk of a world war it does not mean that it is due to USA's actions. There's some bizarre thing where everything that goes right in the world is despite what USA has done, and everything wrong in the world is directly due to USA.
It's a standard bias that too many embrace. Being fair e.g saying good things or pointing out the bad thing aren't entirely due to them is seen as carrying water or other such nonsense
In Bill's world, "Death to Israel, A Curse Upon the Jews" is like, a prank?
Imagine the Canadian Flag had "**** the USA, death to Murica"
We laughing?
3 swedish boys have been arrested for throwing hand grenades to the Israeli embassy, and according to some people in this thread this shouldn't be booked as an antisemitic event, do i read the takes properly?
This is such nonsense. It's drawing on the canard that there's an inherent Muslim desire to destroy Israel -- we're surrounded boo hoo.
The truth is that different governments are following their interests based on their own situations. So you have Jordan and Egypt with peace treaties with Israel. You have Arab citizens of Israel who are not inveterately hostile.
this is unbelievably naive
there is no 'inherent muslim desire to destroy israel' (there's a lot of it about, but its not inherent)
there is a sincere desire among iran's leaders and its puppets to destroy israel, and to exterminate or forcibly evict its jewish inhabitants
the rape and murder of more than a thousand civilians on oct 7 plus the thousands of rockets that have been fired at israel by iran and its puppets since that date are a manifestation of such
North Korea says **** like that all the damn time, mostly we just laugh it off. I wouldn't support a full blown war on bluster alone.
Trolly if you take the sum of all the attacks by the ring of fire and Iran, you have more than bluster...
And this includes cyber as well as conventional attacks, and funding anti-Israel sentiment all over the world.
Even Egypt, we've now learned, is basically a frenemy
If Mexico, Cuba, and others attacked the USA in a similar way to Israel being attacked, nobody would "wonder" if it's bluster. You guys in here have tripled down on this so hard that you just can't find your way out anymore.
Trolly if you take the sum of all the attacks by the ring of fire and Iran, you have more than bluster...
And this includes cyber as well as conventional attacks, and funding anti-Israel sentiment all over the world.
lol, Israel/USA have endlessly provoked Iran, have engaged in cyberattacks and even assassinated a general and are now openly ginning up WWIII. If the US did all that to Canada and then some of their politicians responded with obnoxious rhetoric, I wouldn't support going to war.
If Mexico, Cuba, and others attacked the USA in a similar way to Israel being attacked, nobody would "wonder" if it's bluster. You guys in here have tripled down on this so hard that you just can't find your way out anymore.
Yeah, Cuba's never threatened the US in any way.
