Trump 2nd term prediction thread

Trump 2nd term prediction thread

So, looks like Trump not only smashed the electoral college, but is looking on track to win the popular vote, which seems to be an unexpected turn of events, but a clear sign of the current temperature in the country and perhaps the wider world.

Would be interested to hear views on how his 2nd term will pan out from both sides of the aisle - major happenings, what he's going to get done, what he's not going to get done, the impact of his election on the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, whether his popularity will remain the same, wane, or increase, etc.

A bit of an anemic OP, I know, just interested to hear people's thoughts now that the election uncertainty is over.

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by Playbig2000 k

There was a hurricane there months ago and there were people still living in tents.

These are American citizens who lost everything they owned, including their house, car, job, and all their personal belongings and clothes.

Do you have any connections with people there? I've been pointing out for months how FEMA wasn't helping them. They don't need tanks and weaponry, they need permanent shelter for starters. Maybe you're refusing to believe it because the MSM said they're being taken care of bu

I'm referring to the billions in aid sent to other countries.

Would be good to see a breakdown of money/food/shelters vs old armaments.

I'm sure there's a lot of the former being sent, but I believe the vast majority that is sent to Ukraine for example, although denoted in dollars, is actually tanks and whatnot. So they send an old Abrams tank to General Zelenskyy and instead of saying we sent 1 tank, they say US gives Ukraine $20 million, or whatever they price mark the tank at.


To state the obvious, one of the reasons why Trump wants to get rid of FEMA is because he thinks it will make it easier for him to selectively take personal credit for certain disaster relief efforts while deflecting blame for others.


by King Spew k

Take disaster relief and shove the responsibility of aiding citizens back to the states where it belongs.

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Hello Florida! DeSantis has all the $$$ he needs when the next hurricane hits

Well, as a hurricane victim I think I can comment on this.

The state of Florida has done ZERO to help us. Not a single thing. On top of that the state and desantis have washed their hands of the insurance debacle here. They want nothing to do with it.

Fema, on the other hand, responded quite quickly and has helped us quite a bit.


Not just blaming, but punishing states that don't do what he wants.


bb, yeah, I forgot the little
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at the end of my post.

Can you image FL when all the insurance companies have left and the next storm relies on FL_EMA ?

Better yet... fed taxed NEVER reduced enough to cover the Uge increase in FL income tax / property tax rate. Buckle up, RedStateOfAmerica


Is it the worst thing in the world if we give Florida back to nature and make all those people move to Arkansas?

Four seasons but a mild winter, low COL, excellent aesthetic. Arkansas welcomes you!


by biggerboat k

Well, as a hurricane victim I think I can comment on this.

The state of Florida has done ZERO to help us. Not a single thing. On top of that the state and desantis have washed their hands of the insurance debacle here. They want nothing to do with it.

Fema, on the other hand, responded quite quickly and has helped us quite a bit.

Florida voted closer than I thought, but I guess enough people in the state don't care about this?

Election Results Overview
Total Votes Cast: Approximately 11,067,456.
Republican Candidate: Donald Trump with 5,668,731 votes (51.22%).
Democratic Candidate: Kamala Harris with 5,297,045 votes (47.86%).


by housenuts k

Florida voted closer than I thought, but I guess enough people in the state don't care about this?

Election Results Overview

Total Votes Cast: Approximately 11,067,456.

Republican Candidate: Donald Trump with 5,668,731 votes (51.22%).

Democratic Candidate: Kamala Harris with 5,297,045 votes (47.86%).

Something something leopard face.


I mean yeah. Keeping disney in line and making sure nobody says the word gay is a much higher priority than people being able to afford their homes.. That's where we are. It's sad.


by Rococo k

There is no chance that the constitution will be amended, but this is still the sort of thing that underscores how fundamentally dysfunctional our political system is.

You don't even have to pretend to gaf about anything serious in order to be elected to Congress.

This guy's Wikipedia article speaks for itself.

the very sad consequences of a two party system with safe districts


by Rococo k

There is no chance that the constitution will be amended, but this is still the sort of thing that underscores how fundamentally dysfunctional our political system is.

You don't even have to pretend to gaf about anything serious in order to be elected to Congress.

This guy's Wikipedia article speaks for itself.

can you please walk me through why you think it is dis functional if some extremist is allowed to floor a proposal with 0 chance of becoming the law?

in a fully proportional system, you would have neonazi and Marxists parties flooring even worse proposals.

which system do you have in mind that makes it impossible for anyone not close to center to ever get elected in a parliament?


by Rococo k

The 22nd Amendment doesn't say anything about consecutive terms. It says:

Legit question, in 2028 could Vance run with Trump as VP then resign on day 1? In that case, Trump wasn’t officially “elected” more than twice, but could then be president.


by Double Down k

Legit question, in 2028 could Vance run with Trump as VP then resign on day 1? In that case, Trump wasn’t officially “elected” more than twice, but could then be president.

No. You can't be vp if you are ineligible for the presidency.


by Gorgonian k

No. You can't be vp if you are ineligible for the presidency.

source?

actual law scholars claim the opposite

https://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/fac_a...


by Luciom k

can you please walk me through why you think it is dis functional if some extremist is allowed to floor a proposal with 0 chance of becoming the law?

in a fully proportional system, you would have neonazi and Marxists parties flooring even worse proposals.

which system do you have in mind that makes it impossible for anyone not close to center to ever get elected in a parliament?

Shouldnt it be like this ?
Why would you like extremist in power ?
What would happen if it’s extremist you wouldn’t like that came to be in power ?


by Montrealcorp k

Shouldnt it be like this ?
Why would you like extremist in power ?
What would happen if it’s extremist you wouldn’t like that came to be in power ?

because being a minority in parliament doesn't give you power unless you happen to be in the majority for some specific law passage.

I don't want to ban leftists from Italian parliament ffs.

meanwhile if some set of ideas is considered inimical to the state you fight that.

but once you don't (or if you have the 1a) it's proper that parliament represents all set of ideas that exist in society including horrendous ones.

otherwise you all should stop pretending you ever gave a **** about actual democracy


by rickroll k

the very sad consequences of a two party system with safe districts

Well sad for you but if they keep getting elected they must good for a reason for the electorate ?
I mean they could vote for someone else .


by Luciom k

because being a minority in parliament doesn't give you power unless you happen to be in the majority for some specific law passage.

I don't want to ban leftists from Italian parliament ffs.

meanwhile if some set of ideas is considered inimical to the state you fight that.

but once you don't (or if you have the 1a) it's proper that parliament represents all set of ideas that exist in society including horrendous ones.

Huh ?
WOW what a change of tune , the left isn’t pure evil, ennemies and shouldn’t be eradicate anymore ?

LOL that must be the best joke in a while coming from you .
WE don’t give a $h!t about democracy ?


by Double Down k

Legit question, in 2028 could Vance run with Trump as VP then resign on day 1? In that case, Trump wasn’t officially “elected” more than twice, but could then be president.

I think this is closer to a debatable question.


by Luciom k

source?

actual law scholars claim the opposite

https://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/fac_a...

The 12th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America.

"But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

If you want to nitpick about "being elected" and what-not, do it with someone else. I'm not discussing it with you because I can't stand you. The intent of the amendment is clear and any nit-picking would be just that. Waste your time if you want, just don't expect me to care. The amendment says nearly word for word what I said, the only difference being "constitutionally." Now guess where the eligibility requirements for president are listed.


by Luciom k

can you please walk me through why you think it is dis functional if some extremist is allowed to floor a proposal with 0 chance of becoming the law?

in a fully proportional system, you would have neonazi and Marxists parties flooring even worse proposals.

which system do you have in mind that makes it impossible for anyone not close to center to ever get elected in a parliament?

I didn't say anything to suggest that I thought proportional representation would improve U.S. politics. The absence of proportional representation isn't why U.S. government is dysfunctional.


by Luciom k

source?

actual law scholars claim the opposite

https://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/fac_a...

The argument laid out in this article isn't some sort of majority position among legal scholars.


by rickroll k

the very sad consequences of a two party system with safe districts

We've had a two party system with safe districts for most of the history of the United States. That isn't a complete explanation.


by Rococo k

The argument laid out in this article isn't some sort of majority position among legal scholars.

Bar journal articles are usually written by students. No dispositive weight at all. He literally tried to counter my source in the constitution with an article from a bar journal written as a masturbatory exercise. In other words, standard Luciom confirmation bias research. He had to skip past the google result that agreed with me that was a literal article about the amendment to read that and then asked me for the source. lolol


by Gorgonian k

Bar journal articles are usually written by students. No dispositive weight at all. He literally tried to counter my source in the constitution with an article from a bar journal written as a masturbatory exercise. In other words, standard Luciom confirmation bias research. He had to skip past the google result that agreed with me that was a literal article about the amendment to read that and then asked me for the source. lolol

I don't know what you mean by "bar journal." If you are referring to law reviews, then your statement is incorrect. Law reviews mostly publish articles written by law professors, although they do publish "notes" written by students as well.

This article was written by a law professor.

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