Trump 2nd term prediction thread
So, looks like Trump not only smashed the electoral college, but is looking on track to win the popular vote, which seems to be an unexpected turn of events, but a clear sign of the current temperature in the country and perhaps the wider world.
Would be interested to hear views on how his 2nd term will pan out from both sides of the aisle - major happenings, what he's going to get done, what he's not going to get done, the impact of his election on the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, whether his popularity will remain the same, wane, or increase, etc.
A bit of an anemic OP, I know, just interested to hear people's thoughts now that the election uncertainty is over.
You're just regurgitating right-wing media w/o thinking about it... at... all.
how is this right wing? they dont give Biden any "credit" for all the families he misery he caused. everything I have read from right wingers is that he was soft on immigration and caused a crisis. meanwhile the dude deported twice as many people as Trump.
Secondly, did Biden make it a point to use ICE to go after internal illigal immigrants and raid businesses?
yes ofc he did. he just didnt talk **** about it. same with Obama.
dont believe me, believe the Dems themselves.
again, you guys are Democrat partisans. you are totally fine with Biden destroying people's lives bc he has a D next to his name but throw a fit when an R does it.
2028 prediction thread
how is this right wing? they dont give Biden any "credit" for all the families he misery he caused. everything I have read from right wingers is that he was soft on immigration and caused a crisis. meanwhile the dude deported twice as many people as Trump.
yes ofc he did. he just didnt talk **** about it. same with Obama.
dont believe me, believe the Dems themselves.
again, you guys are Democrat partisans. you are totally
I'm just trying to get you to think, which seems almost impossible to achieve.
You JUST said, right-wing media said he was soft on immigration.... but..... now that Trump is deporting people en mass.... it turns out, nope, Biden wasn't soft on immigration. Didn't they run a whole campaign about how soft Biden was on immigration and you needed Trump to save you from the terrorist/criminal illegal immigrants? ?
So which one is it Victor?
Nobody is saying that there was ZERO ICE raids under Biden victor. By all news accounts, Trump is currently upset that the ICE raid numbers aren't at least 1.2k a day. You can look these numbers up victor. If Trump maintained that throughout his presidency, it would be roughly double what Biden did.
But it's about the fear and intention. You can google stories of immigrants quitting their jobs because of the fear of being deported. Biden wasn't continually targeting internal groups. Most of the ICE numbers are from border crossings. Again... all data you can look up.
You JUST said, right-wing media said he was soft on immigration.... but..... now that Trump is deporting people en mass.... it turns out, nope, Biden wasn't soft on immigration. Didn't they run a whole campaign about how soft Biden was on immigration and you needed Trump to save you from the terrorist/criminal illegal immigrants? ?
you are confusing me with right wing media bud.
my assertion: Biden and Obama were horrific and destroyed many people's lives with their mass deportations and police state. just as bad as Trump up to now. maybe he is worse. I would be surprised if he is appreciably worse (theres your prediction KS) mainly bc it is very hard to be more fascistic and cruel than Biden and Obama were.
right wing medias assertion: Biden was soft on immigration
you are confusing me with right wing media bud.
my assertion: Biden and Obama were horrific and destroyed many people's lives with their mass deportations and police state. just as bad as Trump up to now. maybe he is worse. I would be surprised if he is appreciably worse (theres your prediction KS) mainly bc it is very hard to be more fascistic and cruel than Biden and Obama were.
right wing medias assertion: Biden was soft on immigration
But you support Trump and voted for him... are you saying if I did a search I wouldn't find posts from you about how soft Biden was on immigration? Hint.... I may already have one.
That's what I'm trying to point out victor. Your base is being lied to and manipulated constantly. And the core of that is false equivalency. Biden deported a lot of people because there was a build up at the border... again, don't you remember all this?
It's DIFFERENT from using ICE as a weapon to deport people.
If you can't figure that you... and you want to say it's all the same, then god bless your lil' heart (as they'd say in the south).
But you support Trump and voted for him... are you saying if I did a search I wouldn't find posts from you about how soft Biden was on immigration? Hint.... I may already have one.
That's what I'm trying to point out victor. Your base is being lied to and manipulated constantly. And the core of that is false equivalency. Biden deported a lot of people because there was a build up at the border... again, don't you remember all this?
It's DIFFERENT from using ICE as a weapon to deport people.
If you
Just a heads-up. I've explained that to him numerous times and he always ignores it and then repeats his claims as if nothing happened. He knows, He just doesn't care because he thinks he scores points with it.
But you support Trump and voted for him... are you saying if I did a search I wouldn't find posts from you about how soft Biden was on immigration? Hint.... I may already have one.
bro wat.
That's what I'm trying to point out victor. Your base is being lied to and manipulated constantly. And the core of that is false equivalency. Biden deported a lot of people because there was a build up at the border... again, don't you remember all this?
this isnt at all different than the Trumpers arguments that they are only deporting the criminals. its ok when your side does it essentially.
It's DIFFERENT from using ICE as a weapon to deport people.
If you can't figure that you... and you want to say it's all the same, then god bless your lil' heart (as they'd say in the south).
I dont care about the reasons, it destroys lives nonetheless and Biden hurt a lot of people.
bro wat.
this isnt at all different than the Trumpers arguments that they are only deporting the criminals. its ok when your side does it essentially.
I dont care about the reasons, it destroys lives nonetheless and Biden hurt a lot of people.
So you're for no deportations and open borders? What is your position on immigration?
You voted from Trump, correct?
not sure why you would think that I voted for Trump
I voted for Biden in 2020 bc like a good liberal I thought that Trump was a unique threat to mankind. then Biden did a genocide and brought a 5050 chance (see the Woodward book) at nuclear war with Russia and the liberals were just like yep this is fine.
LOL at new guy accusing Victor of voting for Trump.
2025 is truly the most bizarre timeline.
no it was bc of the Dem led genocide in Gaza
he has already been better. even if they go back to war tomorrow 1000s of lives have been saved. no I didnt expect it (hence why I didnt vote for him) but it was a freeroll.
he has already been better. even if they go back to war tomorrow 1000s of lives have been saved. no I didnt expect it (hence why I didnt vote for him) but it was a freeroll.
You have an extremely U.S.-centric view of military conflict. You seemingly believe that every conflict begins (and, when convenient to your worldview, ends) because of U.S. policy. The U.S. obviously has had an enormous impact on the last 100 or so years of human history, but things are a little more complicated than you seem to imagine.
Any Trumpers on here on Medicaid?
Spoiler
Not anymore!
