Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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A Hamas Leader Is Killed in Iran During Visit
Hamas accused Israel of killing Ismail Haniyeh, who was in Tehran for the inauguration of Iran’s new president.
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So on top of the Hezbollah commander getting killed by Israel in Beirut, there are reports a top Hamas official was assassinated in Tehran. No details on the latter yet, or even if it is true.At some point you would hope the light bulb would go off that if you are Arab, allying with the IRI to fight Israel is kind of a bad idea. All you end up with is a destroyed country and
I dunno, are you familiar with the Kissinger quote?
something like “It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal.”
Haniyeh was negotiating the cease fire deals right? really this just shows how Israel has been operating in bad faith and lying all along like usual.
At some point the light bulb should go off that the light bulb you might hope would go off when you apply deadly force/oppression as a deterrant is just not what will happen.
It might be satisfying and polically expedient but everything just gets worse.
I’m sure the Israelis were aiming for a school or hospital full of women and children but due to their incompetence, missed and hit some terrorists. Unlucky.
destroying the rapists and murderers of civilians on oct 7 and their leaders makes things better, not worse
Those aren't kids. They're the offspring of a subspecies called Palestinian and killing them is no different to pest control.
those were Lebanese. stil, probably Islamo fascist or whatever the new code word is nowadays.
destroying the rapists and murderers of civilians on oct 7 and their leaders makes things better, not worse
yes assassinating Palestinians has worked so well for you guys
destroying the rapists and murderers of civilians on oct 7 and their leaders makes things better, not worse
Everything points towards him not having prior knowledge of Oct 7.
destroying the rapists and murderers of civilians on oct 7 and their leaders makes things better, not worse
Many will feel the same about the Israeli leaders and army. Some of them will also cheer collective punishmemnt.
It wont make things better at all.
the real victims in the prisoner rape scandal (maybe the translation is off lol)
imagine you get a job at the torture factory and then they arrest you for doing too much torture. I get where the guy is coming from tbh. totally unfair!
Article argues that both the top and bottom of Israeli society are responsible for the ongoing genocide. Intentional comparison to book title Hitler's Willing Executioners.
He is literally the leader of a terrorist organization dedicated towards Israel's destruction, holding 100+ Israeli's hostage (hey are probably all dead), that Israel has been at war with for 10 months. Maybe he knew about 10/7 ahead of time, maybe he didn't. Maybe assassinating him was a good idea, maybe it was a horrible one. But whether he specifically was aware of he exact details of 10/7 before it happened isn't part of the moral calculation.
Maybe we will never know, but I am more interested in whether US gave Israel the go ahead for the assassination. Obviously him and other Hamas leaders have been hands off because they reside in Qatar and the US doesn't let Israel attack terrorists in Qatar.
The Biden administration has a lot of Islamist enablers in high places (Which is fine I guess, we have interests that extend far beyond the Israel/Palestinian situation), so hard to believe Israel would trust the Biden administration with such information.
Hamas is not a monolith. The military wing is very different from the political wing, and Israel's best chance at fighting the military wing is through the political wing.
On another note: It's strange that Israel hasn't claimed the assassination yet.
He was? How so? What does being a Hamas "moderate" even mean?
All I know about him is he has a lot of money from stealing aid and taxing weapons going through the smuggling tunnels.
Was he not chanting, "Death to America, Death to Israel" with all the other psychos during the Iranian presidential inauguration?*
* That actually happened. While they were inagurating the new president, the entire assembly of old men really did this chant. Seriously. Who the **** does that? Islamists are such a moral disaster on every level.
*Edit: the IRI just raised the red revenge flag. These guys really do seem to be straight out of central casting of a Borat or Austin Powers (Dr. Evil) movie. It is just so absurd.
Hamas is not a monolith. The military wing is very different from the political wing, and Israel's best chance at fighting the military wing is through the political wing.
On another note: It's strange that Israel hasn't claimed the assassination yet.
--The most current information is the missile came from a nearby house, which means if it was Israel, it was Mossad. My understanding is Israel doesn't ever make announcement for covert Mossad actions.
Could also be a false flag or someone else I guess. Although I cant imagine who else would be directly assassinating terrorists in Tehran. Current news is an IJ commander was staying in the same residence, although no announcement he was hit, so he probably wasn't.
It was probably Israel, but the vast majority of Iran wants the government overthrown.
Hard to imagine an Iranian dissident would go after Hamas though, unless they were trying to frame Israel to start a war that would topple the IRI. That is some serious conspiracy level stuff though, and I tend to think in most cases the simplest explanation is the most likely one; that is it was Israel.
As far as the Iranian people hating the govt and mostly being over the whole Revolution. I think that has gone into the calculation as to why Israel has not gone after the Iranian people at all. They have just been going after Arab proxies. And maybe party of the calculation of why IRI hasn't directly gone to war with Israel, and uses Arab proxies, as their own people already dont like them.
Too bad so many Arab people are so deep in their hate they cant see they are just being played by the IRI, and there is nothing good to come from fighting Israel for the IRI.
Yeah, I agree, it's unlikely. Still, seems strange that nothing has come out about it yet. Israel hasn't claimed it as theirs, we haven't seen a destroyed building or anything.
You mean the guy who was seen on video, celebrating Oct 7th? Very moderate indeed. Can't think of a reason why a Hamas leader celebrating the slaughter of civilians would need to be assassinated.
True brain teaser this one.
Why?
