President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by amplify

ding!

Now I understand, you think someone pointing out that you’re attacking a strawman is them being pedantic. That explains a lot about our recent interactions.


by geezerchess

If you mean you can't get to the essence of things through definitions alone, that is both true and noncontroversial.

Thank you! Basic Platonism!


by TheBigEasy

When Trump rambles on nonsensically like that, it's because he's a ****ing bullshitter, not because he's ******ed.

He does it often, about many different things. He has spent his entire life babbling and babbling and babbling about stuff until people think he's competent.

What? "He says stupid stuff until people think he's smart?" No. He's a goddamn moron. Yes, he's ALSO a con artist who never shuts the hell up, but these things are hardly mutually exclusive. Do you need another 1,000 examples of stuff he's said and done that no intelligent person would ever say and do?

by TheBigEasy

In doesn't matter the subject, Trump will talk about it (unless it embarrasses him, then he'll claim to know nothing about it). He's the epitome of "fake it until you make it." He doesn't have any real skills, other than (as David Frum astutely pointed out a decade ago), "A bully's ability to spot his opponent's psychic weakness. Like calling Jeb Bush 'Low Energy', for examp

America has been "so ****ed" long before Trump went down that escalator in 2015. Countless millions of people voted for George W. Bush (twice!), the killer of a million Iraqis (and a thousand New Orleanians), and your boy David Frum did all he could to ensure that happened. These Frum-ian conservatives are at least as evil as Trump, some more so, as they are significantly less stupid than Donny AND don't suffer from a profound case of NPD, and as such, more completely understand the full impact of their actions. It's not a matter of intelligence; it's a matter of morality. W, David Frum, those molest-y Lincoln Project creeps, Trump, Mayor Pete, Bill and Hillary, all of these people are of comparable moral rottenness.


by checkraisdraw

When did Biden or his administration kill anyone?

YOU HAVE LAID UPON US A GREAT MYSTERY

holy ****


by EmptyTheCities2

What? "He says stupid stuff until people think he's smart?" No. He's a goddamn moron. Yes, he's ALSO a con artist who never shuts the hell up, but these things are hardly mutually exclusive. Do you need another 1,000 examples of stuff he's said and done that no intelligent person would ever say and do?America has been "so ****ed" long before Trump went down that escalator

You’re wrong. Trump is orders of magnitude worse than any major party presidential candidate in US history.


by EmptyTheCities2

YOU HAVE LAID UPON US A GREAT MYSTERY

holy ****

So do you also think that Biden killed more people than Trump? If so can you substantiate who Biden killed and who Trump killed?


If you respect the words of war crime propagandist David Frum, I think we are starting from radically different priors and won't find agreement on this issue. I'll only ask you to imagine who Iraqis are more upset with, the Bush/Cheney Administration, or Trump.

W. is obviously a stone moron as well, but Trump's got him beat.

They're both roughly equally accidentally funny. Remember when the Jan 6th cosplayers were preparing to riot/take an informal tour of government buildings, and Trump put out a video where he was like "I'm gonna be out there! I'm gonna march with all of my wonderful people!" I'm cracking up wondering if people genuinely believed he was actually gonna go out on the street and hang out with his supporters, most of whom he obviously loathes. Good ****.


by checkraisdraw

So do you also think that Biden killed more people than Trump? If so can you substantiate who Biden killed and who Trump killed?

I'm not sure who has killed more people. You asked, "who did the Biden Administration kill?", and I'm wondering if you've ever heard of this place called Gaza. They're both mass murderers who should be in the Hague.

Biden killed a bunch of Palestinians (he had the ability to cut off our arming of Israel. It's possible Israel may have found a way to murder that many people without our help, but that's not our world.), Trump killed a smaller number of Iranians. Trump also killed some surplus number of people during COVID that a responsible statesperson would not have.

At the end of the day, I'm not sure. Probably pretty close. They both can hang.


by EmptyTheCities2

I'm not sure who has killed more people. You asked, "who did the Biden Administration kill?", and I'm wondering if you've ever heard of this place called Gaza. They're both mass murderers who should be in the Hague.Biden killed a bunch of Palestinians (he had the ability to cut off our arming of Israel. It's possible Israel may have found a way to murder that many people wit

I disagree that Biden killed Palestinians, but even if he did, well it’s by the same metric that Trump will end up killing between 9-19 million people by defunding USAID. That’s above and beyond any amount that could realistically be attributed to Biden simply for supporting an ally that was attacked.

Findings

Higher levels of USAID funding—primarily directed toward LMICs, particularly African countries—were associated with a 15% reduction in age-standardised all-cause mortality (risk ratio [RR] 0·85, 95% CI 0·78–0·93) and a 32% reduction in under-five mortality (RR 0·68, 0·57–0·80). This finding indicates that 91 839 663 (95% CI 85 690 135–98 291 626) all-age deaths, including 30 391 980 (26 023 132–35 482 636) in children younger than 5 years, were prevented by USAID funding over the 21-year study period. USAID funding was associated with a 65% reduction (RR 0·35, 0·29-0·42) in mortality from HIV/AIDS (representing 25·5 million deaths), 51% (RR 0·49, 0·39–0·61) from malaria (8·0 million deaths), and 50% (RR 0·50, 0·40–0·62) from neglected tropical diseases (8·9 million deaths). Significant decreases were also observed in mortality from tuberculosis, nutritional deficiencies, diarrhoeal diseases, lower respiratory infections, and maternal and perinatal conditions. Forecasting models predicted that the current steep funding cuts could result in more than 14 051 750 (uncertainty interval 8 475 990–19 662 191) additional all-age deaths, including 4 537 157 (3 124 796–5 910 791) in children younger than age 5 years, by 2030.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lance...


by bahbahmickey

I disagree with you, but I understand your point and think it is reasonable for trump's 2nd term. However, imagine how the US and the world would have done trump's 1st term with your hypothetical person. Your random person would not have pushed back on the "experts" at all during covid which would resulted in everyone in the US being forced to get the vax, schools and most of t

Covid would not have gotten such a foothold if any other president was in office at the time.

For example, any Ebola outbreaks in the DRC are reported to US health officials within 48 hours of WHO alerts, but the Trump administration + Elon and computer hackers cut USAID funding by 70% in the DRC and severed ties with the WHO, so this latest outbreak of Ebola took over two weeks for US health officials to discover the outbreak.

by bahbahmickey

Every dem and most repubs would have snapped at the opportunity to use covid as a way to rule with an iron fist. Trump's decision to allow states the freedom to make some of their own covid rules proves how little he cares about increasing his power. This was probably the best example the world has seen of a leader presented with a golden opportunity to grab more power and trum

I'm pretty sure you don't know the difference between state and federal. Hint: Trump doesn't get to decide how a state does or does not handle covid. I have to think you're either trolling or retaaded.

Also, the only difference between Trump 1.0 and 2.0 is Trump had too many people around him who had limits to their sycophancy during his 1st term. Now that the guardrails are off, it's pretty clear, even for tardos, that Trump is the most power-hungry, corrupt president ever to hold the office.


by Rococo

On a mostly unrelated note, it is crazy how many musicians are willing to play private events if you pay them enough. You can hire a wide range of aging also rans (e.g., one half of Milli Vanilli) to living legend types (e.g., Sting) to play your 50th birthday party if you want to shell out the cash. People typically pay between $75K and $1.5 million depending on whether they

This is not crazy at all and not exclusive to music industry (a la gates, buffet, spielberg, de niro,obama and whoever from whatever field) .
They all do it.


Man how much must trump truly despise Lee greenwood that in the face of this disaster he hasn’t been asked to step in?

Low bar to clear but greenwood would definitely be a more sensible headliner than literally vanilla ice

Also couldn’t even get kid rock lol


by bahbahmickey

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He was right to pardon the jan 6th morons. [...]


"Show me your friends, and I will tell you who you are."


Honest question is that Milli or Vanilli that's on the list?


by Rococo

This is letting Trump off too easy. Stupidity isn't his main problem. He is also utterly amoral and profoundly narcissistic.

Deciding that trump isn’t evil or amoral is the biggest tell of one’s moral stature there is


The music acts seem to be abandoning Trump's birthday party.

Going to be UFC and

Spoiler
Show


I just found out this is a multi day festival lol. These idiots really thought they were gonna create maga brochella

Vanilla ice for 20 days? **** ya america



by corpus vile

I mean it’s one of his few good policies.


Trump threatening to perform. No doubt air jerking a couple of ***** to YMCA repeatedly.



‘Artists’: were worried this is gonna be too partisan so we won’t do this

Trump: nobody wants to do this so get ready or 30 days of campaign speeches by me as the headline


by Land O Lakes

Covid would not have gotten such a foothold if any other president was in office at the time.

There's only so much government can do about a force of nature, but the poor US death rate from Covid is generally attributed to the shambolic class-oriented private healthcare system, which is bipartisan, and the endemic state-federal confusion, which is also bipartisan. Biden caught Covid three times while in office, which isn't exactly an advertisement.


by 57 On Red

There's only so much government can do about a force of nature, but the poor US death rate from Covid is generally attributed to the shambolic class-oriented private healthcare system, which is bipartisan, and the endemic state-federal confusion, which is also bipartisan. Biden caught Covid three times while in office, which isn't exactly an advertisement.

US was 16th in deaths per capita, UK was 19th.


people citing covid stats for countries will never not be amusing


Is the Creature of Queens really going to do a $250 bill? I would love it. Evidently the $100 bill is worth about 1/30th of what it was when introduced. Let's get it up out of the dirt!

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