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12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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by jalfrezi

As usual on matters of foreign affairs, you’re wrong.Americans can’t deal with their previously hallowed but now failed constitution that Trumps driven a juggernaut through and are resorting to talking shyte about the UK constitution, parts of which are written of course, like parts of common law that includes Magna Carta and the bill of rights etc, and various acts of parliame

“Parts of it are written” so parts of it also are unwritten, and which written works are part of it are part of the unwritten parts, which can be changed at a whim.

I think you guys just don’t understand the concept.


by checkraisdraw

“Parts of it are written” so parts of it also are unwritten, and which written works are part of it are part of the unwritten parts, which can be changed at a whim.

I think you guys just don’t understand the concept.

The once-great British Empire has been shrinking for 75 years and seems on course to become an Islamic state in a generation.


by geezerchess

The once-great British Empire has been shrinking for 75 years and seems on course to become an Islamic state in a generation.

There’s an unwritten part of their constitution that prevents that, surely


lets write things down and then pretend to ourselves that that prevents anything

Sure it is nice to know trump can't do anything 'unconstitutional'. It's impossible 'cos we have this piece of paper.


by chezlaw

lets write things down and then pretend to ourselves that that prevents anything

Sure it is nice to know trump can't do anything 'unconstitutional'. It's impossible 'cos we have this piece of paper.

No one ever said that having a written constitution means people won’t be able to do unconstitutional things. It just means that the things that it prescribes are normative, and clearly so.

If congress makes an unconstitutional law, the law will still exist until it’s struck down. Yes the people effected can try to get a remedy, but it’s weird to act like the point is only to prevent and not also to remedy or to lay out process/procedure.


Yes it's clearly whatever the 'wise men' say it is

and so easy to amend when centuries old stuff seems oddly out of date

Vastly superior.


Amend what? You’re just deciding to do something different. There’s nothing to amend.


the written bit. either it's effectively written in stone which would obviously be ridiculous or it has to be changed over time

but whatever the written words say, the meaning is down to 'wise men'

still it's nice to look at and very reassuring


by chezlaw

the written bit. either it's effectively written in stone which would obviously be ridiculous or it has to be changed over time

but whatever the written words say, the meaning is down to 'wise men'

still it's nice to look at and very reassuring

Obvious false dichotomy.


no it's just a bit nitty on your part.

I think you can grasp the point if you remotely want to


by chezlaw

no it's just a bit nitty on your part.

I think you can grasp the point if you remotely want to

American constitution has changed significantly, there’s a process to change it. It’s not set in stone, but the revisions are transparent and so is what needs to be revised.

Also most of the issue with Trump isn’t what he doesn’t follow in the written portions of the constitution, it’s his lack of interest in upkeeping the “unwritten norms” that you’re so strongly defending (which as enforcement mechanisms are worth the paper they are not written on).


Next time chezlaw and I make a verbal agreement, I want it in writing!

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