LeBron > Jordan GOAT Super AIDS Containment, solved #22999 post by Matt R. (addendum #23174)
Very impressed with the minute sequence where LeBron clearly lost the ball headed to the rim, heat got the ball anyway and scored, then he elbows his defender in the chin, drawing a defensive foul and stern talking to from the official and hitting a 3.
It's these ref assisted 5 point swings in close games that truly bring out the best in great players.
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The thread that will go on for years..........
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It's been one game and Luka is just starting to get back into playing shape and has to figure out how to gel with his new team....lol at using stats from that single game to make any argument about what may or may not happen long-term.
Lakers are 10-1 in their last 11 games, mostly stomping people, have road wins vs Knicks/Clippers and a home win vs Boston. Laker stock is on the rise.
Lakers are 10-1 in their last 11 games, mostly stomping people, have road wins vs Knicks/Clippers and a home win vs Boston. Laker stock is on the rise.
There's no incentive for teams to beat the Lakers because the media won't praise them for it and instead they'll say Lebron doesn't have enough help and revive the goat debate.
Everyone sees the Lakers pulling off unprecedented deals to get AD and then spitting him out for Luka - they know that only Lebron gets this treatment of stacked decks, so they don't mind taking a night off since no one else will mind them contributing to the narrative of Lebron having a winning team.
Again, there's no incentive to win because no one will praise you or elevate you historically - they'll just say Lebron needs more help.. The league has been WWE to get Lebron chips since 2011 - since he decided to turn the league into a colluding, load-managing, non-competitive league with an easy-scoring beginner format.
It's been one game and Luka is just starting to get back into playing shape and has to figure out how to gel with his new team....lol at using stats from that single game to make any argument about what may or may not happen long-term.
I'm using actual numbers to show that what I say comes true, while you're just saying what you want to believe... The reality is that Lebron was ball-dominant as hell last night and the only reason they won was because of Luka and teammates were hyped about Luka - this allowed victory in spite of Lebron's 7 turnovers and ball-dominance (turning everyone into spot-up shooter).
How is Austin Reeves not counting as player development? If that doesn't count then nothing counts and no player has ever developed another player.
Franchise players are credited with developing young guys, but Lebron's teams are the only team with multiple franchise guys... Accordingly, AD gets a lot of credit for Reaves' development, since he's the highly-assisted big that guards play well with, while Reaves craters alongside Lebron's ball-dominance.. Reaves is 30/7/10 without Lebron.
Secondly, the fact that Reaves is the first guy in 2 decades to grow from low producer to meaningful producer alongside Lebron makes my case (the exception that proves the rule, and an exception that AD developed anyway).
There's no incentive for teams to beat the Lakers because the media won't praise them for it and instead they'll say Lebron doesn't have enough help and revive the goat debate.
Everyone sees the Lakers pulling off unprecedented deals to get AD and then spitting him out for Luka - they know that only Lebron gets this treatment of stacked decks, so they don't mind taking a night off since no one else will mind them contributing to the narrative of Lebron having a winning team.
Again, there's no ince
This is laughably insane, and you know I think you do actually believe it.
MJ did **** all winning at Washington.
We can compare healthy LeBron to healthy MJ 38 - 40 or unhealthy (LeBron's run to the Western Finals), but it's still the same answer. You don't need to fixate on the stats here (though they are obviously in LeBron's favour) or the results (perennial playoff team versus failure to make the top 8 in the East) or the awards (All-NBA versus charity All-Star selection). JUST WATCH LEBRON PLAY. He's so much better, and it's laughable to suggest otherwise. You ca
Again I watch LeBron healthy vs a MJ injured and yes LeBron is better .
But u comparing 2 different things shrug .
And again , in todays nba it’s clearly easier to gain stats and mj didn’t play much with great players either .
But since those facts do not matter I guess I’ll just end it here .
FWIW It’s funny how great defenders at that time were still in awe of mj excellence despite playing on 1 leg at his age and yet all the posters in this thread knows better it’s hor$e$h!t …
Imo when u compare a healthy mj in 2002 vs an injured mj end of 2002 with 2003 and don’t see a big difference in individual stats and team stats there is just nothing to add but to disagree .
