President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
It isn't a meme, it's a list of actual very significant political controversies at the time
You could make a similar list for any eight-year stretch in American history.
It goes even further than that. It is important to point out what these elected officials are doing. Your best case scenario is that they are hypocrites, which is bad enough. The second-best scenario is that they are clueless about crime in their own states where they are elected to serve.The worst case scenario is that they are arguing that any city / state / region not contro
The real scenario is that we all know (because they brag about it) that democrats don't want to help deportation efforts, and so they are looking for excuses to get control of local police forces in as many major cities as they can in order to coordinate better with ICE and deport more people.
The crime claim is an excuse which they evidently think could hold better in court (or at least delay things enough to manage to deport some more people) than other excuses so they went with it.
And to be clear Trump still has to pull the trigger on that
possibly and ? if someone came out claiming we need to go back to lindon johnson years because things were so great back then wrt politics and people weren't crazy, maybe i would?
I mean in general the message i hope to convey is that american political history is littered by extreme controversies and exceptional power struggles with violations of deep values all around and we aren't living in a special time at all.
The acrimony between parties and social groups in the USA for political reasons was always extremely high , as was the violation of norms.
A demented president didn't leave office, twice, even if everyone around him knew for a fact his mental faculties were completly compromised.
The USA lied to enter a very prolonged war with reconstruction efforts LED BY A COMPANY THE VICE PRESIDENT WAS THE CEO OF FOR 6 years.
The country stopped and paralized politically because the president got a blowjob by an intern in the oval office.
More than once, the president was actually assassinated while in office.
A president was deposed because he attempted to spy on the opposing party.
and so on and on
The real scenario is that we all know (because they brag about it) that democrats don't want to help deportation efforts, and so they are looking for excuses to get control of local police forces in as many major cities as they can in order to coordinate better with ICE and deport more people.The crime claim is an excuse which they evidently think could hold better in court (or
The whole thing is more than a little performative. In Trump's perfect world, would the federal government have greater control over policing in major cities? Maybe. Probably. But it isn't so easy in most cities. But I also think that he wants to convince rural America that American cities are out of control and that the federal government is swooping in to clean up these dens of iniquity, whether they actually are or not.
Mods of this forum have implicitly admitted the only reason you still exist is cuz they need traffic
Your life ****ing sucks
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But look at how lively the content is.
it's a list of events during Obama, not even necessarily caused by Obama, but a list of things that dominated the political landscape and discourse back then.
it's just honestly unclear why one would prefer to go back to that
I think people remember fondly the direction the country was going under Obama, not so much the individual events he oversaw. The world respected us and we honored our trade deals and supported our allies. But anyway I don’t deal much in historical counterfactuals as it’s hard to know how bad McCain or Romney would have been. I suspect Romney would have made a decent president.
I think people remember fondly the direction the country was going under Obama, not so much the individual events he oversaw. The world respected us and we honored our trade deals and supported our allies. But anyway I don’t deal much in historical counterfactuals as it’s hard to know how bad McCain or Romney would have been. I suspect Romney would have made a decent president.
the world respected you so much russia took crimea with no efforts, syria used gas weapons on it's people and it's civil war caused millions to flee to europe, you let libya descend into madness and china genocide the uighurs in tranquility. With an ally support like that who needs the enemy...
But yes trade deals were enforced (and Obama made good use of the WTO).
Note that's it's not much about counterfactuals, in the sense that i don't think things would have been particularly better or different under the alternatives.
As for what people thought the direction was
This was the reality: the vast majority wasn't happy at all with the direction of the country same as it isn't now.
Maybe, just maybe, overall independent/apolitical people haven't been happy in a very long while about how the country is changing, while true leftists and true rightwing are somewhat happy at times when they are in power and otherwise completly unsatisfied. And a sufficient number of people here is very leftist so they obviously felt better with Obama
I got mix feeling of bill Maher but he makes a lot of sense here imo .
How to transform a democratic state into a fascist or dictatorship .
Hopefully people will stop see trump as a right vs left conflict and more more as a preserving a democracy vs another type of regime shrug.
I hope those on the right would agree the latest step used by trump wouldn’t have been accepted by them has an ok thing to do ….
That is why they are pro gun , to prevent too much federal intervention into their states right ?
I got mix feeling of bill Maher but he makes a lot of sense here imo .How to transform a democratic state into a fascist or dictatorship .Hopefully people will stop see trump as a right vs left conflict and more more as a preserving a democracy vs another type of regime shrug.I hope those on the right would agree the latest step used by trump wouldn’t have been accepted by the
Yes he was right on many things about Trump but he is also right about the left
Like I said , we way pass the concept of left vs right with trump .
But You got your whataboutism in about the left and to some kind of way , excuses trump actions (why else bring a whataboutism ?) .
Congrats.
Like I said , we way pass the concept of left vs right with trump .
But You got your whataboutism in about the left and to some kind of way , excuses trump actions (why else bring a whataboutism ?) .
Congrats.
It's kinda hilarious reading his posts. He has a very special kind of hatred for the left and surprisingly also for Obama lol.
It's kinda hilarious reading his posts. He has a very special kind of hatred for the left and surprisingly also for Obama lol.
Actually I thought Obama was quite the statesman and represented how a president should act but lets not forget he never Codified Roe V wade , Did nothing when Russia took Crimea ( right decision) Drew a red line for Syria and never acted ( again right decision) . He also passed Obama care which was a achievement that did not go far enough
So Try again
Not sure you are paying attention. He can do whatever the f he wants, has backing for it all over the place, legit or corrupt, and see how it washes out in the long run. He's immune in advance and slightly reckless.
Did you watch the video? The Grok bit isn't important, just an amusing aside, being Musk's AI bot.
Actually I thought Obama was quite the statesman and represented how a president should act but lets not forget he never Codified Roe V wade , Did nothing when Russia took Crimea ( right decision) Drew a red line for Syria and never acted ( again right decision) . He also passed Obama care which was a achievement that did not go far enough
So Try again
dont forget all of the children he drone striked, weddings he bombed, funerals he bombed, hospitals he bombed
say it together people!
Spoiler
for fun and profit
dont forget all of the children he drone striked, weddings he bombed, funerals he bombed, hospitals he bombed
say it together people!
Spoiler
for fun and profit
One of the joys for me of no longer reading the Israel/Palestine thread was not having to read your repetitive posts.
So, I would like to thank you for confirming that I made the right decision in avoiding that thread.
Portuguese President:
The supreme leader of the world's greatest superpower, objectively, is a Soviet or Russian asset
One of the joys for me of no longer reading the Israel/Palestine thread was not having to read your repetitive posts.
So, I would like to thank you for confirming that I made the right decision in avoiding that thread.
I apologize for denigrating your hero Obama. actually, no I dont. screw that guy and anyone defending him.
I apologize for denigrating your hero Obama. actually, no I dont. screw that guy and anyone defending him.
Don't take this the wrong way, as I want to be as kind and diplomatic as possible:
You're a buffoon!
In what possible (let alone actual) universe is Obama my hero?
Please show even ONE post of mine in which a reasonable person (i.e. almost anyone other than you) could interpret as being an example of Obama being my hero?
Looking forward to seeing that post, since I obviously don't remember it.
Oh, and more thing in case I forgot to mention it earlier:
You're a buffoon!
well you just went to bat for him so what else can I conclude? I am sorry that I pointed out how much he loves murdering innocent people and that triggered you so much that you had to almost instantly jump to his defense.
